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Andrespetmonkey said:
Viper1 said:
Andrespetmonkey said:

Ok, this is what I thought you meant first. I get it.

So let's say it's made for $500 and sold for $400. What would the price be for Japan, still keeping the loss at $100?

A $400 US cost would be ¥31,434.   Keep in mind that the 32 GB Wii U is priced at ¥31,500.  

It's really had to reverse the concept of cost since the price and costs originate in Yen so you really need to start there first.  That in mind, if the 32 GB Wii U is going to sell for ¥31,500, I can imagine to have a powerful PS3, it would likely cost more.  Even with a loss.  And then you do the conversion back to USD...or GBP, Euro, etc....

Point is you have to start wiht the Yen first to begin to understand what it will cost here, how much losses they can expect and how powerful they can design (given the costs).

So if the PS4 is made for 40k yen, that's just over $500 right? Wouldn't that still be a just over $100 loss if sold for $400 in merica? And that could be sold for 35k yen in Japan?

If people are not going to spend more than $400 on a console then there is no point in new consoles any time soon. 

I think MS had the right aproach with the Xbox live 2 year subscription sale. Get the people to put $200 down up front then make them pay $25 a month for 2 years. If they don't like that they can pay $600 up front. With the extra services that a next gen console will require to make it worth while, that service charge should be no big deal. Throw some games out for subscribers every month like PS+, and everyones happy.

With that route they guarantee every console under the subscription makes profit. People paying the $600 up front will be buying a lot of games, and they will be paying the $60-70 for a year of XBL3.0, so they can afford a loss on those units.

In addition to that, why not just make next gen platforms instead of devices. Take the multiple SKU idea of this gen and expand it. Have a base model with the bare min., and have higher end models with bells and whistles. The base model can be the loss leader, while the top end skus break even or make money.

Consoles as they stand right now are not going to make it. MS and Sony have to adapt to a changed market. Nintendo can do wahtever they want because people are just there to play Nintendo games at the end of the day. We are at a point right now were nearly any company could make a next gen platform, and get right in the thick of things. Make a standard hardware with no royalties and an open atmosphere, and they would have every thrid party their in a heart beat. We all know third parties sell the most hardware, and they may even doexclusives to a platform like this because it would help drive out the royalty empire made by the current players.



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