Oh boy , IGN is doing another TOP 100 list - TOP 100 RPGS ALL TIME

[forevercloud3000]

Kasz216 said:

forevercloud3000 said:

Kasz216 said:

forevercloud3000 said:

That is basically what I said. When you question  and check your own objectivity as a safety precaution you are being objective. And sorry, I forgot the "All" in there.

Except it wasn't... you missed frame of refrences.  This is different from bias.

Additionally I can't see how you think you've accouted for it when... you know.  You didn't even think it was bias a day ago.

Before 5 years ago, it was practically universal that Best FF Main:Cloud, Best FF Villain: Sephiroth, best FF Game: FFVII whenever such lists showed their face.

 

 

5 years ago is 2007 right?

Lets look at IGN's 100 best games list from 2005.

http://top100.ign.com/2005/001-010.html

 

FF7, 88th best game of all time.

FF6?  56th best game of all time.

FF4? 26th best game of all time.

 

Aside from that. Frame of refrence means you can appreciate the game as part of it's era.

 

It actually always was very rare FF7 ever ended up at number 1 final fantasy wise in a list done by professional videogame magazines or websites.

That belief has pretty much ALWAYS persisted among people who had played both in order.

 

If you didn't notice, you simply weren't paying attention.

Unfortunately most of these sites no longer keep pages from 2005 and back so It is relatively hard to scrounge them up. Also many of these top lists were in Magazines.

 

Cant find the date but seems to be using an older list....

http://vgsales.wikia.com/wiki/Famitsu_Japan's_100_favorite_video_games 

http://retro-sanctuary.com/Top-100-PS1-Games-Page-5.html 

2004

http://videogameaddicts.net/toprpglist.html 

http://www.the-top-tens.com/lists/final-fantasy-games.asp 

2011

http://rpgfan.com/features/Best_of_Final_Fantasy/best_main.html

http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2011/12/02/ranking-the-final-fantasy-series.aspx The guy actually says "Maybe there's some subconscious "it's super-popular so I like it less" pushback going on in my head..."

As of 2012, This is how most FANS think of the game...

http://www.listal.com/list/top-15-best-final-fantasy

http://realotakugamer.com/best-game-ever-final-fantasy-vii

http://www.cheapassgamer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=136008

http://www.ign.com/blogs/gilgameshthepugilist/2011/07/09/re-ranking-15-final-fantasies-fan-art-edition-7-1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1Kcn8PplL8

http://www.computerandvideogames.com/318513/features/final-fantasy-vii-why-its-an-unbeatable-rpg/

 

here is an IGN article that touches on the new disdain many formed for the game...

http://www.ign.com/articles/2009/03/03/is-final-fantasy-vii-overrated?page=2

FFVII might not have always been at the very top of the lists but it has always been ranked pretty high. When talking about the greatest games of all time in particular, it is relatively hard to have that conversation without mentioning the game and how it left a huge mark on gaming as a whole. Big sites like IGN are sort of the problem as they are the main ones that perpetuate such ideas  (the "Lets roast a game everyone loves" article) because it drives hits.