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pezus said:
HappySqurriel said:
pezus said:
mrstickball said:
pezus said:
^I don't know about you, but I'd like to go to a dentist for free

Its not free.

You always pay for it, one way or the other. The question is if the system that you are in is efficient or not.

Meh, I prefer hidden costs that are distributed evenly rather than paying an outrageous amount each time I go for a checkup.


So do all the people who abuse the system ...

When you involve a third party payer into the system doctors and patients have no incentive to control the costs of health care (including dental care) and the number of unnecessary tests and procedures dramatically increases. As a result, rather than paying $300/year for the dental care you use, you pay $3000 for unnecessary dental care used by other people.

Explain the bold. If the doctors can control how much money they make directly, I am sure they will try to do as many unnecessary tests as they want.

That cannot be explained because:

The USA spends more per capita* on healthcare than any other "western" country in the world that has a public health system, and

far more as a % of GDP* than any other "western" country in the world that has a public health system, and

has a higher infant / young child mortality rate* than any other "western" country in the world that has a public health system, and

has a higher adult mortality rate (under 55 years)* than any other "western" country in the world that has a public health system, and

has a lower life expectancy* than any other "western" country in the world that has a public health system.

*based on 2009 data (i.e. pre-Obama's non-socialised "socialised" health care act)

So US non-single payer health care system has worse bang for buck than all countries with mixed single payer public health + private insurance systems.



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