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Dodece said:

@amp316

Yours seems to be the only question worthy of a reply in the whole thread. The answer to you question is that it is probably lingering resentment. This community did have a very large very competent Microsoft contingent early in the generation. Which was sadly, and very much intentionally chased off by certain members of the staff at the behest of certain members of the community. Basically a number of moderators became what amounted to puppets dealing out punishments in a very biased manner. The real problem was early in the generation the Microsoft contingent had the overwhelming majority of facts on their side, and could just plain dominate Sony loyalists.

Which resulted in some Sony loyalists pushing a carebear agenda. Which allowed moderators to ban on the grounds of console warring. Since those who pushed for the changes already had moderators in their pockets. The carebears didn't really abandon the fight so much as they played the system. They would instigate some argument, and then play the victim when they got stomped into the ground. It was really trolling at its finest. They would say something really heinous. Then act as if they were mildly retarded, and beating on them was really wrong. Which the biased moderators just lapped right up. Not only wasn't the Sony troll punished, but the Microsoft loyalist would be severely punished, and publicly ridiculed.

The net result was that large numbers of the Microsoft contingent were banned out of these forums, or took the hint and left of their own accord. After all there is no reason to stay in a community where you are being treated unjustly, and being openly taunted by the management. It got so bad after awhile that people didn't just leave. They left with a big axe to grind. So they defamed this site where ever they moved on to. Which is part of why this site it hard pressed to get new members in for the Microsoft community.

Anyway this is hardly relevant to the current community. Most if not of all the players that were heavily involved either left of were kicked out themselves. The puppet moderators are long gone. The carebears for the most part got banned when new staff members tired of their whining bullshit. The only lasting effects are that the rules are still way too stringent, this site doesn't have much of a Microsoft community, and this site still has a bad stigma of being a Sony only zone.

Hope that helps, and let me repeat this isn't relevant to the current community. Don't bite my head off for repeating what others have told me was the reason they left. My personal view is banning should never be used unless absolutely necessary. It is probably still overused, and that is a problem. When someone gets banned all it does is piss them off. Send them to another site, and get this site trashed elsewhere. It doesn't really correct the behavior. Hell it seems to make things worse in the long run.


When I first got onto VGChartz I only owned a 360 (Which of course I defended at the time because MS had the third party exclusives). No offense but the 360 owners were stomping the PS3 owners for "having no games" and doing the exact same crap the PS3 owners are dishing out today. 2008 through now Sony has been throwing out the exclusives and people have swayed. Some stayed on a side lableing, and abusing the rules (we all have). All console camps were boasting, including the Wii owners who finally after two generations could say their faith in Nintendos ability to dominate wasn't in vain. Of course the war was always between the PS3/360 owners who warred amongst ourselves. People had a reason to argue for Microsoft back in 2005-2008 but after that I really don't know what to tell you. Perhaps some people got scared off, but the fact remains the trolls exist in every group, arguers do too. We've all been in on it because we all have a personal preference even if we own all of the consoles. The response to the topic is founded on the truth that essentially nothing pertaining to online multiplayer is free to play on Xbox Live, so Microsofts statement about it being a natural fit is actually founded on a lie.

Here is the quote from the end of OP:

“The free-to-play model and games experiences will be available to all Xbox LIVE Gold subscribers,” the spokesperson concluded, “as many of the games planned will be multiplayer games by nature (an Xbox LIVE Gold subscription is required for multiplayer gaming). The games that use the free-to-play mechanic will leverage the Microsoft Points system.”

That is the running joke of this post. By their very nature Microsoft does not support free online gaming.