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nuckles87 said:
Soundwave said:
Conegamer said:
Soundwave said:
Conegamer said:
From what I've seen, and what most non-anonymous sources seem to agree, is that its between 1.5-2x the power of the current gen. I'd be surprised if the PS4/720 are much more powerful.

Remember, Ninety designed this with 3rd parties; it's their system.


I think this is naive. I'm sure Wii U will be fine for Mario/DK/Kirby/etc. but what would be the reasoning for MS/Sony to make consoles just a tad more powerful than the 360/PS3 that they already make?

Sony's already said there's no point in releasing a PS4 if it's not a big leap over PS3.

This is basically going to be the Wii-PS3-360 all over again. Nintendo needs the touchscreen controller concept to come up big for them.

Its not naive, it's a cost issue. Sony cannot afford to release a console several times more powerful than the PS3, and if they do, most devs won't use most of it so you won't see the difference.

 

Look at the rumour thread; all rumours price all consoles closely with all consoles similarly powered. Expecting a $600 beast is naive.

 

it'll be closer to PS2-Xbox-GC IMO.


A modern $200 consumer priced GPU blows away a PS3/360, especially in a closed console environment.

PS3/360 are nothing special, this is ancient tech nowadays, you don't need a $600 system to blow those away. The only reason the PS3 was $600 anyway was because of the Blu-Ray disc format. The 360 launched at $299/$399 seven years ago.


Not true at all.

 

The blu-ray drive was only $125 of the PS3's $840 asking price:

http://www.digitimes.com/bits_chips/a20061117PR200.html

To put things in perspective, total loss on the $600 model was $241, so even without ANY blu ray drive at all, the system still would have lost over $100 per system at the $600 asking price.


Sony can't sell their next system for this price, and they certainly can't take these kinds of losses with their current financial situation, especially now that they've lost their market dominance.

The guy forgot when the PS3 was launched at $600 the GPU based (GeForce 7800) was $350 to $400... only the GPU.