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Gamerace said:
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It was the bluray which pushed the price so high. Sony may have won that format war, but it was a phyrric victory.


Its amazing how much Sony has managed to sell  despite the situation of putting Blu Ray in their console. Never has there been more respectable sales for third place for so much put into one console. Last gen in Nintendo and Microsoft could barely make it over 25 M. The gen before that because of Sony, Nintendo couldn't even sell 35 M consoles during the 64 era. Sony fucks up and is still able to sell 66 M consoles in a gen. Thats a testament to the fact that they are still doing something right despite all the financial decisions they made at the beginning of the gen. Sonys walking away with 80 M+ for the PS3. Win, lose or draw, that speaks volumes about what they deliver.


At the end of it all, the only metric that really matters is profit and even if Sony does break 80M units on the PS3, I doubt they'll break even on the deal. So I'll stay with phyrric.


Sony broke even two years ago on the PS3. Everything from now on is purely profit. Its the Vita and Move that are in the negative.

Do you have a cite for that? As I understand it Sony stopped selling at a loss, but it will be a long way to recoup on the initial unit losses.

Old news bro. Sony from 2010 until the ten year plan is over will be profitting off of the PS3. The can drop the price of the PS3 since because of them creating market popularity, Blu Ray is dirt cheap now. Essentially they were four years in the negative, and will be six years in the range of profit.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/196214/sonys_playstation_3_turns_profitable.html

I'm not sure if your serious.  One look at PS3's profit margin vs loss and it's obvious that even at their most profittable, six years is no where's close to enough time to recoop the massive loss Sony took.  Plus PS3 hardware and software sales are in steady decline (lost money last quarter) and will continue to decline at an accellerating rate as WiiU and new Xbox and PS consoles come out and just due to market saturation.   Sure Sony can cut price (and profit) to boost sales temporarily - won't help.

The important thing is it's making money today (maybe).  But don't delude yourself into thinking PS3 overall was, is, or ever will be, a financial success.   Only the original Xbox will have lost more money.   On the flipside, I'd be surprised if 360 ever recoops the initial 2B loss it had despite being more profitable for longer and certainly will never, ever recoop the original Xbox's 4B loss.  (anyone got any stats on this??)

This razor and blades model the industry (minus Nintendo) is following is folly.


This generation has been a disaster for Sony as a company. They turned profit on their cosolee though, so just accept that. If you want to see the PS3 as a failure, thats your opinion. The Move and the Vita are going through their issues now and its Sonys duty to pull them out of it or stop dealing with them.