lilbroex said:
Kynes said:
Baron said:
It has become clear to me you have little understanding of hardware and power profiles. The Wii had a 20 Watt TDP because its hardware is based on components developed in 2001 originally manufactured with a 180nm proces then downsized to 90nm for the Wii. Again, size =/= power profile.
I also never said the GPU in the Wii U is going to have a 50 Watt TDP. I only compared the difference in performance relative to TDP in just two years time by using the 2600 XT and the 4650 as an example. If the Wii U GPU really is manufactured with a 40nm process as rumors suggest then the 5570 with a TDP of 'only' 39 Watts is plenty to smash the performance of the 360's Xenos.
Your assumption seems to be based solely on the fact that the Wii U isn't much bigger than the Wii. Understandable but mistaken.
Until we know what kind of power profile Nintendo has in mind we can't say anything without them being baseless assumptions.
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I don't know anything about hardware and power profiles. I've been reading silentpcreview since ~2005, Beyond3D since 2004, I've done overclocking with undervolting to my laptops, my studies are equivalent to an electrical engineering, and I work with hardware, but I know nothing of it.
I'm just saying that we shouldn't have unreasonable expectations of the power that a console with that aspect ratio could have. WiiU seems to be at most two times the volume of Wii, Nintendo shouldn't make a console with a power envelope higher than 50-60W with that aspect ratio, or we will have consoles that die due to thermal fatigue as X360 and PS3 suffered this gen.
I'm sure that Nintendo want a failure rate in the low single digit range, and putting >80W in a box of that size is looking for problems.
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Beyond3D is a terrible source of information. For all the tech heads their, it doesn't amount ot much do to their tremendously egocentric nature and bias towards their own self-interests.
So much of their analysis is just baseless opinion based on the personal preferences of their administration who do not allow any form of challenge to their divine wisdom. They take facts then mix them with their fantasies. Only about 50% of what comes from them is worth more than a grain a salt.
If you were geting info from them then I would reccomend another, better source that that is capable of making unbiased judgements and is open to more possibilities.
Nintendo has two primary interests when it comes to design. Cost effectivenss and appealing to the largest number of people.
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Provide me a better place than where some of the guys that make the chips give some tidbits. 3DCenter? Hardware.fr?
Who are you talking about when you talk about the administration? Dave Baumann? He left the administration to Rys in 2006, because he was hired by ATI. Who then? You can't get much better info than in Beyond3D, whatever you say.
