CGI-Quality said:
20happyballs said:
CGI-Quality said:
I didn't say poly count was everything. It's never good to claim subjectivity with a clear bias involved. You used hi-res screenshots versus a video cap. Not exactly reasonable. Both current gen screenshots also have low-res textures and are running on engines with a FAR higher budget, no less. Nevermind the fact that when i say polycount, I meant cloth, skin and all of that. Neither title you show here have a character model as full as Unity 4's.
Using Crysis 1 vs Crysis 2 is meaningless, especially when you can't argue it outside of preference.
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I claimed subjectivity because I know I'm being biased. I didn't want to sound ignorant and claim that my opinion should be everyone's opinion. I agree, the screeshot comparison is not fair... I stretched the uncharted 2 picture and so it looks more blurry than it actually is.
What do you mean by budget? Do you mean computing budget...because the Unity 4 tech demo is definitely running on a much higher budget. You mentioned the cloth and skin...seriously? That's an incredibly weak argument if you're saying the cloth and skin in this tech demo is impressive. Maybe the physics but not the appearance. And that is an objective opinion. I don't even need to post a picture of current gen games that look better than this demo.
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Have you not read at all? Unity 4 isn't running on a higher budget than something like the Luminous Engine nor Unreal 4 - one of which you said look"much better". You're also being a little pedantic with the meaning of poly-count.
To the knowledge of bugets, if you know exact figures and can dispute the above claims, I'm happy to hear it. Outside of that, since you've already confirmed a bias, then debating this is pointless.
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You are lost. We have been comparing the budget between this tech demo and current gen games. Not this tech demo compared to the other next gen engines. It's obvious that those other engines were running on higher budgets.
Our overall debate is about whether or not this tech demo can be said to look worse than current gen games. My argument is that it can be said to look worse. My bias is my preference of things other than the polycount. That hardly makes this debate pointless...unless you want to start to claiming that your opinion should be everyone's opinion. Then the debate would be pointless because there would be no way to reason with you.
