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VicViper said:
d21lewis said:

Do you mean the Japanese Mario 2 (aka lost levels) or the Doki Doki Mario 2? 

And yeah, I agree with you.  There were plenty of Mario alternatives for people looking for variations on the Mario formula.  I guess Nintendo knows that Mario has a particular brand of loyalty amongst fans.  If Super Princess Peach had starred Mario, I think it would have done much better in sales.  It was a pretty solid game but, withouth Mario on the box, many people didn't even give it a second look. 

One of the few series that almost always gets it right is Metroid.  I guess Grand Theft Auto and Castlevania do a good job of this, too (for the most part).  As for the last part of your post--I openly admit that we have no idea what we want.  When companies start listening to us and changing things to fit our demands, that's when things start getting generic and bland.  I think NSMB2 is barely outside of that window but I hope Nintendo goes their own way with the next game.  Make the game they want to make instead of making the game they think we want them to make.  It usually works out better for everybody when they don't follow some check list of demands.


One "proof" of what I'm saying (change is cyclical) is that if you look at the changes people want, most of the times they are throwbacks: world map, spin jump, yoshi, etc...

I've noticed this in other things, too.  Tablets, for example.

People wanted home computers, and then computers small enough to take with them.  Then, it reached a point where people had smart phones that could do most of what a computer coud do in the palm or their hands.  Now, people are leaning towards tablets (which just look like bigger cell phones to me) and wanting add on keyboard for their tablets.  It's like they want what they already had.  I think that by the time it's over, we'll be right back to having giant Batman computers in our homes....and people will want them to be smaller.

Same goes for portable consoles.  We want them small but when they get too small, we want them bigger.  When they get too big, we want them smaller.