Legend11 said:
wfz said:
You must realize your question (asking people which side they'd choose) was very biased in the viewpoint it was presented in, and made to make a person feel bad for choosing the opposite side. Kasz was merely giving you a very valid, and opposite, way to approach the same topic from the other side of the spectrum.
Kasz question was a loaded question, my question was not, that's something I was trying to point out to him. That was something that I think flew over your head if you though both questions were just as valid. My question didn't actually state anything about the the embryo (while his forced the reader to assume it was a person). As far as making someone feel bad I can't believe that someone would come to the conclusion that an embryo is a human being and then feel bad for choosing the life of a human being over the feelings/emotions of another.
Your inability to even truly understand the thoughts of those who believe the embryo is a human (which you made even more clear in this post of yours I quoted) shows how biased you are and how fueled and loaded your statements are. Kasz, who even shares the same basic viewpoints on this topic as you, manages to do it in a very productive, non-biased fashion that shows a more knowledgable approach to the topic. If I were you, I'd think about this and use it as a possible growing experience.
I do undestand the logic of those that believe an embryo is human so please stop making assumptions and stating them as fact. The next time you wish to lecture someone please at least know what you're talking about.
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You say you understand the point of view of someone who thinks an embryo is a human, yet you continue to belittle it and mock it. That's why it seems you really don't... Again I'll applaud Kasz for taking a more netural objective look at the topic and not being high and mighty with his opinion, which is what you're doing.
You called Kasz' question loaded, yet yours wasn't? His was just as biased in the opposite direction as yours was in your direction. You are merely seeing things from your side of the playing field. You didn't state anything about the embryo, you're right. That's exactly where your question was biased. You kept talking about the woman and her family, drawing all attention away from the life inside of her and the consequences of it.
Your stance was basically "you're going to make this poor woman take this embryo to term even if she doesn't want to? You're going to make her suffer?"
That's very clearly written in a fashion to make people feel bad for saying yes. They're basically answering: "Yes, I'm going to make that woman suffer." That's a completely biased angle that doesn't involve the side of the argument dealing with the fact that those people believe the embryo is a human. If you don't see how you're being biased and loaded with your wording, then there's nothing I can do to help beyond what I've already explained.
