| theprof00 said: As far as i can tell you were tryingto back up the implication that women have mysterious ways of dealing with it. It is plain and simple fact that they do not. Your linked study is not wrong in what it said. But you were assuming it said something it did not, which as i outlined earlier is a bad extension of logic or i guess, recursion. All squares are rectangles but not all rectangles squares. Same situation with your link, your link says women who have miscarriages have sometimes shown high cortisol levels, but you thought it was saying that high cortisol levels cause miscarriages, on top of which it doesnt solve the problem kahn brought up that the miscarriage is murder and is almost worse pointing it out because that sounds like lots of people with accidental miscarriages will yhink they murdered their own child. The fact is, it simply isnt true. It's not your link or idea or anything other than the fact that a woman does NOT hqve some way of dealing with it. It was a boneheaded comment made by a bonehead who seems to believe in magic. |
I get a bad vibe from your tone, honestly. I can't see through my computer but you seem upset.
Anyway, I'll read the rest of your post and edit when done.
EDIT: Now to actually comment on the post content.
Well, let's put the Mr Khan aside because I'm debating that with him atm. For the record, I am strongly disagree with calling natural death a murder. A tsunami death is not a murder, nor is a non human-induced miscarriage. Murder is will to kill out of an evil intent, or out of ignorance of human wrongdoing, imho. So you won't win me using that value-system.
As for the article, I did remind you that I underlined a sentence in the article, I will post it again and I want you to show me how it does not say what I read:
http://www.webmd.com/infertility-and-reproduction/news/20030605/how-stress-causes-miscarriage
"June 5, 2003 -- Stress has long been suspected as a possible cause ofmiscarriage, with several studies indicating an increased risk among women reporting high levels of emotional or physical turmoil in their early months of pregnancy or just before conception. But while a relationship has been noted, researchers didn't know exactly how a woman's stress could cause miscarriage."
So, and I quote:
1) "Stress has long been suspected as a possible cause of miscarriage."
2) "studies indicate: increased risk in women reporting high levels of emo or physi turmoil in early moths of preg or just before conception."
In both cases, it doesn't mention anything of restricting the finding to women with high cortisol levels (unless there's a segment of the article I missed that says what you're saying). Either way, it is same diff because even a woman who does not regularly have high cortisol level, yet develops it for a period due to trauma, nothing says that she is not prone to the same fate? The relationship between the factor and the outcome exists, so what makes you restrict it to women with naturally high cortisol levels?
