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fordy said:
HappySqurriel said:
fordy said:
HappySqurriel said:
100% against wikileaks ...

You don't promote a free an open society by leaking information, which ultimately will require the government to be far less open; you promote a free and open society by demanding transparancy from your government.


So I guess that makes freedom of the press close to obsolete...


With the press there is accountability and ethics, with wikileaks there is neither ...


Had the press been doing their job, there would not have been a sudden release of hundreds of cables at once. Things were buried pretty deeply. Had this been uncovered much earlier, the government might not have been so willing towards such immoral acts. They believed they had the press in their back pocket already. Don't you see that? The only ethics in "journalism" today is to ensure the people remain blatantly ignorant to such matters.

By the way, everyone has ethics, including Wikileaks. What right do you have to draw the line at what is considered ethical or unethical to everyone else?

The media today doesn't involve journalism, it involves entertainment and spin ...

Journalism involves getting sources to speak on record about issues and release information with their motivations being well know.

Someone who leaks information cherry picks the information to create a particular narative that suits their motivation; and remains anonymous allowing them to capitalize on the leak of information.

Leaking information resulting in political consequences only results in tighter controlls being put on the information and political figures fighting increased transparency. In other words, leaking information works against having a more transparent government.