@happydolphin Resistance looked better than any FPS released on PS2, Motorstorm looked better than any racer released on PS2 those are just off the top of my head, not big on Xbox so ill have to actually think about that one. I'm comparing Wii U to the PS360 because it is supposed to be the start of a new gen, and every start of a new gen, you have a console that launches with games that look MUCH better than the last and im simply not seeing MUCH better with WIi U and ive never had to wait years before.