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Kenology said:
oniyide said:

@ 1st bolded  Judging by the past NInty consoles?? Only a bit better.

@ 2nd bolded  Thats not good enough, a least not for me and a few others. This is debuting six years after the 360 and we dont even know what the other two will do for sure yet. If you've never owned an HD console then welcome to the party, but if your like me and have owned one for sometime, then their is nothing mindblowing about the Wii U, especially since the system only allows two pads per console. not saying it will be bad, but as of now its just OK.

@3rd bolded, LOL thats what you guys were saying prior to E3, "just you wait till E3, Ninty will show you" and they didnt really, so now your're telling me I have to wait YEARS? Sounds a bit like goal post moving

1st - That doesn't make sense to me.  This current gen is the only gen that saw Nintendo skimp out on power.  In all previous gens, Nintendo's consoles were just as powerful or more powerful than the competition - I don't see any reason to ignore that fact and pretend the Wii situation is the norm.

2nd - That's fine.  I understand that many people are accustomed to huge leaps between generations.  Past generations have always had huge leaps over the previous one.  But with development costs being as expensive as they are, I don't know how much farther the envelope can be pushed.  For Nintendo fans, I think I speak collectively that we'll just be glad to see a Mario Galaxy, Metroid Prime, and a Zelda in HD and it'll make us happy campers.  Also, if I'm correct about Sony or Microsoft not making a quantum leap into next gen in terms of power, I wonder if you guys will suddenly be ok with not having that leap.   Like, is it only a problem because Nintendo's doing it?  We'll see.  I admire Nintendo for sacrificing "power" in order to be profitable and keep dev costs down.  It's a smart business decision.  Wouldn't want to lose all that money they made off of the Wii, DS, GC, GBA, etc. just to be bleeding edge in the next gen.

3rd - Not at all.  I'm sure a lot of people thought E3 was going to be the big Wii U reveal and it turned out not to be.  Who knows what we'll see when Nintendo decides to show us.  But we won't know if AC3 runs at 60fps and at 1080p until they decide to show us.  Don't know what you're talking about with "wait years".  AC3 is a launch game.  You'll only have to wait a couple months, and we'll know if it runs better before then when they unveil it.


I should have been more clear, i didnt mean that. i just meant looking at past Ninty consoles, when they start out, you usually dont see a steady increase in graphical fidelity. Wii sure as hell didnt have it for obvious reasons. GC didnt really have it either. N64 kinda did, the Banjoe games looking better than Mario 64.  Look at Uncharted, the difference between the sequel and the original is almost night and day.

I know the hardcores will be happy they always are. I think Ninty could have def, pushed the envelope further, and im sure SOny and MS will do likewise, maybe not PS2-PS3 madness, but probably traditional leaps like PS1-PS2 and if that happens it wont paint Ninty in a good light IMHO. Remember this is coming SIX years later, thats not a short time. Its not like GC or N64 where those debutted about a year? after Sony's machines

Even if AC3 runs at those speeds thats still not the leap im talking about. In fact that would sound a bit like the difference between PS2-GC, that was ok because that came a year later, but six years later?? Not impressed