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kitler53 on 16 August 2012
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wfz said:
kitler53 said:
megaman79 said:
kowenicki said:

This is head in the sand stuff.  The mobile market is going to explode. Tablets are niche products still depsite what people think, In the next 2 to 3 years every home will want or have one.  We shall see who is right here I guess in quite a short space of time.  Imagine how expensive the ipad 6 and other tablets will be in 3 years time... the Vita and 3DS will much cheaper.


If price point for games is relevant, entry price point is relevant in this argument too.

Do you genuinely believe IPad's will sell more than Wii U controllers and DS's? Do you still believe that Apple is king of the smart phone market? Do you really believe that Android hasn't/won't significantly fracture the smart phone / tablet user bases?

And i would certainly love to see the sales numbers on EA's Tetris vs EA's Dead Space.

 

how could you not?  ipad sold 17M last quarter during a slow part of the year which is more than wii U will do in a year (including the holiday). add to that 24M iphones last quarter which almost sounds like if you add nintendo, MS, and sony together maybe they could compete until you realize, oh fuck, you're right about apple not being king cause samsung sold 50M android smartphones last quarter.  the numbers are staggering and they don't look good for traditional gaming...


Cell phone and tablet sales make you worry about traditional gaming? Do you feel as though the millions and millions of traditional gaming fans are simply going to stop buying the software they enjoy simply because cell phones and tablets are selling better than their favorite consoles?

I don't see why anyone would be afraid of any of our games going away. The consumers who like them will continue to buy them regardless of what other markets emerge. Unless you're assuming we're all going to stop buying the games we love and instead play 99 cent iphone games.

you know, if you weren't such a wii fan i'd have let this slide...   but for years now you have been part of the "the mainstream doesn't need graphics, or online, or whatever" mantra.  and you know what, you aren't entirely wrong.  yes graphics and traditional gaming matter to me but the wii proves a heck of a lot of the market that were buying ps2 a gen ago don'tt care.

so let's start with where you are soo absolutely wrong (its almost sad anyone still spews this (basically bigoted) bull shit).  that's the part where you say "99 cent iphone games".  mobile games have come soo far since their launch 4 years ago.  not only are there  plenty of big name franchises on smartphones, they're selling for higher price points ($5 - $10).  now dont' get me wrong, these are 1 to 1 ports of what we "traditional gaming" but they pretty good overall.

now here is where you sound silly.  that same "good enough" matra you've been repeating about the lack of wii advances not mattering to the mainstream is just as applicable to mobile gaming.  it's the EXACT same thought. 

...and when the mainstream leave there won't be enough money to support the games i want to play.  the more than just "good enough" experiences are expensive to build and there is a required critical mass in audience size to justify creating them.  look at have shit-tastic the vita is doing and behold your future: small audience, low sales, questions about product viability.  even the 3DS is stalling everywhere but japan which is not coincidental to the fact smartphones are far more popular in the west than japan.