Play4Fun said:
I like how you didn't acknowledge anyone's post but instead just repeated the "same gap as this gen" thing as before. Let me put this into perspective for you: Let's say, hypothetically, the WiiU is 3x 360. And let's say the 720 uses a 7850 level GPU since that's the max I could see consoles going next gen because of the power consumption of high end GPUs. That GPU is a bit less powerful than a GTX 580 which is 9x 360. So how would a console that's around 8x 360, while Wii is 3x 360 have the same gap as Xbox 360-20x-WiiU gap? Also, GPUs are the best way to judge the power gap between the consoles, not RAM like you are trying to do. Lastly, every 720 rumour regarding the OS, especially that leaked document a month back, have touted that it would be an all in one media box and is likely to use a version of windows 8. We've seen MS moving towards this with the 360 for a while now with other functions taking priority over gaming in the OS lay-out. In fact, the whole reason MS got into the gaming industry was to gain control of the living room. Their aim has always been for a entertainment system that also plays games, not a gaming system that does other stuff. Just face it, a good amount of that RAM will be for the OS, multimedia functions and muti-tasking. |
Yeah, he is just ignoring everyone's post so he can sleep better tonight. I won't even argue anymore until he proves me the x720 will have a 12TFlop GPU, because without it, it's impossible to have the same difference between the two hardwares.
As for the big ammount of ram for the OS (which he says we have no basis), all the info comes from the same source which gave the specs he is using... so Selnor is basically using the part of the rumor which suits to his agenda and ignoring the other part (or maybe he doesn't even know from where those specs came from). Also, as you said, the leaked Microsoft document shows they want to implement Windows 8 and heavy multimedia functions on the system. We already have leaked devkits and info on neogaf saying a huge ammount of ram is for the OS, and even if it's not, we won't see another Wii situation. Basically, Selnor has no idea what he is talking about, he just want to defend his favourite platform (which is fine by me).
Also, the leaked document promised a 6x x360 performance which is even lower than what we were saying:
http://www.geek.com/articles/games/xbox-720-document-leaks-promises-6x-performance-of-xbox-360-20120618/
I wonder how Selnor thinks that we will have the same 20x (wii x x360) gap again if the Wii U is (at minimum) 2x more powerful and (at max) 4x more powerful than x360, while x720 is going to be around x6~x8 more powerful than x360. And, as I said before, aside from all the power, we also had a SD-->HD transition.
I believe Selnor really wants this to happen, but he wants something he can't have, and this is probably frustrating. He will probably ignore our posts or maybe he will try to argue with different arguments, but in the end he knows the same gap is not possible, not even close.
| prayformojo said: I am on the fence here. I would like to see the specs and get some sort of tech geek's opinion. I'd also like to see what MS and Sony are going to do since that's going to have a massive impact on software next gen. If Nintendo's hardware is really behind, then I don't think I'll get it because I have to have games like GTA etc. |
Go read neogaf's threads about all the leaked devkits/specs/documents. There is some good stuff to read.
