| mai said: So all GDR victories are thanks to doping? :D Consider this. Every team was in similar situation like everyone else, if they weren't caught like everyone else it's not their problem, it's a problem of IOC. Their victories are valid and couldn't be canceled in retrospect just because you want to. Here's Germany's 'progress' in gold medals starting from 1988: 48 (GDR+FRG) > 33 > 20 > 13 > 13 > 16 > 11 If it'd be all thanks to doping the winning phase would have dropped to 11 starting from 1992. In reality it's a slow way down due to simple fact, despite bigger population, investment in sports (or their effecitvity) were down, down and down. As for the USSR example, it's not total population that matter, but 'athletes population', which has decreased in a blink of an eye, and general lack of investment in sports for 10 years.
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East Germany's metal count from 1976, 1980, and 1988 are a prime examples of doping in sports. The 1980 team was the most juiced team of all time not having the US compete that year also helped a lot plus since it was held in Moscow also helped since their probably was no testing for banned substances. Also when you compare East Germany's metal count from 1968 and 1972 you can see when their doping began. It also looks like doping in Germany pre-dates East Germany. Going from 20 metals in 1932 to 89 in 1936 doesn't look like a natural progession.
