Star Wars The Old Republic going Free to Play.

[vlad321]

Scoobes said:

vlad321 said:

AndrewWK said:

YukanaSenix said:

non-gravity said:
Dragon Age II
Mass Effect 3
Star Wars the Old Republic

Well done Bioware

Its sad people still believe in Bioware
Bioware had 2 lucky shots with ME 1 and DA...after that they went downhill with every game.
DA2 was a complete disaster and ME 2 and 3 turned into Gears of War without Blood and a bad ending.

You do know Mass Effect 2 won several GOTY awards and so will ME3. Both sold more then 4 million copies, and are still making profit. Dragon Age II was good imo but many people disliked it because they Mass Effectized it too much, but it is still a profitable game.

I hope you are aware that "making money" and "GOTY" means a grand total of jack and shit when it determines whether a game sucked or not, right? If you don't.... well there's no point in talking to you about this. The fact is, BioWare's good games since Baldur's Gate that were original can be summed up as NWN and Mass Effect 1. The other two games they had that were pretty good, KOTOR and DA, were just dumbed down verison of previous games (in this case NWN and BG).

Was NWN an original title? It was more an evolution of Baldurs Gate in 3D. And I disagree about the Mass Effect series. They moved in a different direction to there older titles but they executed them very well and that's reflected in the widespread critical acclaim. As an RPG/shooter hybrid there are few games that compare.

NWN was definitely a more evolved version of BG. Yeah they are both Forgotten Realms, but heck, NWN didn't even have to be a party game (whether that's good or bad, I can debate either way). Also, BG was D&D2 while NWN was 3.5, I would say that's a nice enough of a difference.

As for your "the later games moved in a different direction... RPG/shooter" I will just play my Deus Ex card right here. I can't directly compare DE to ME1, but I sure as hell can compare it to what BW did witht he other two (and what they did was definitely not pretty). If you can even call them shooters because... How many guns exactly did you have in ME2? From my count, far too few for it to be a worthwhile shooter. As for an RPG, how many differing armors/skills did you actually have to call it a proper RPG?

No, the best thing about the ME series after ME1, was the story and basically the dialogue. I prefer to think of it as an old-school adventure game, though with absolutely atrociously bad puzzles, because calling them RPGs or Shooters is frankly insulting to both genres.

Edit: Forgot the really big BG/NWN difference.