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DigitalDevilSummoner said:
Chris Hu said:


Well it couldn't have gone multiplat since Micorsoft owns the IP and paid for most of the games development so he shouldn't have even brought up that it should have gone multi-platform.  So yeah Gilgamesh was dead wrong when he said it should have gone multi-platform.  The Last Story can't go multi-platform either because it was co developed with Nintendo.

How old did you think I am that I wouldn't be able to tell between couldn't and shouldn't ?

I mean seriouly.

 

 

A203D said:

5 X Stuff

1) FF XI damaged the franchise cause it was not a Final Fantasy game by any means, story wise or gameplay wise or antyhing wise.

2)FF VIII was excellent, X was excellent and X-2 was rather good and very underrated and if you're talking about Crysis Core, that's one of the best PSP games. I don't see how listing great games discredits the creators.

3)No, FF XIII-2 was a response to nothing other the fact that FF XIII was successful. The sequel tried to apologise as much as X-2 tried to apoligise for X. Yes, also very different a sequel. Another factor in the differences between XIII and XIII-2 is that they tried to be more efficient development wise, they said so themselves, which includes listening to feedback something that they couldn't do in the first one.

4)Looking at reviews right now, metacritic 83, user score 80.

5)Market conditions is obviously (a wildly known fact that was only mention a post ago) that japanese games are doing badly, very badly. Are you mocking me in my face talking about Skyrim ? What on earth does skyrim has to do with anything conserning the slowly dying japanese gaming industry ?

 

 

DigitalDevilSummoner said:

Final Fantasy XIII is a success, it won.

 

 


1. You first say that your not going to criticise FF13 for being 'new'. Now your saying that FF11 was not a Final Fantasy game in terms of gameplay or story. This contradicts your original point... As I already said FF11 couldnt damage the franchise because it was very well recieved both critically and commerically.

2. FF8 was not excellent. FF10 had it moments, I believe it stood well because Sakaguhci was still heavily involved. FF10-2... was underated... of course, its underated, which is why the game was about three scantly clad girls running around the world to find Yuna's lover. This is storytelling at its finest! Tell Christopher Nolan we have the idea for his next movie! I'm not sure about Crisis Core, but Before Crisis, Advent Children, Dirge of Cerberus et all are in my opinion abhorations of the FF7 name.

3. Reviews tell you that neither FF13 or FF13-2 are 9/10 or even 10/10 games. Makes you wonder what review scores they wouldve got if they didnt have FF on the box. Which is irrelevant anyway, critical review are still not 'spectacular' as you claim.

4. Your talking about how FF13/FF13-2 combined sold 9.2 mil copies, stating this is an amazing feat or sales. Yet we have Skyrim which is an RPG, in the same market conditions which has sold more copies than FF13 and FF13-2 in a shorter space of time. And you blaming the Japanese console market, where FF13 has an advantage over Skyrim and sold more copies in Japan than Skyrim. Skyrim is an example, as is Uncharted and Mass Effect that sequels, and RPGs are actully finding great success in the market. FF13-2 couldnt be more successful for reasons we can only speculate. I think this is because FF13 was simply not good enough for fans to warrant purchasing the sequel. Hence why it sold less copies than FF13.

5. How can FF13 have won, when the head of Square Enix has acknowledged the franchise has been greatly damaged and that some fans were very unhappy with it? How can FF13 have won when the sequel was made to address the problems with FF13, yet sold less copies than its predecessor? If this is winning, I'd hate to see what losing is.