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A203D said:

Its no longer debabtable whether games like FF13, FF14 et al, are good games or not. Fans have already acknoweleged a 'collapse' of the Final Fantasy name, lol.

When FF13 came out, there were so many people defending that title to the death, now it seems its an accepted fact that the Final Fantasy name has been greatly damaged.

13 and 14 are nothing like each other. the online games did damage the franchise. and who are these fans, cause XIII and XIII-2 topped 9 mil amidst a dead japanese market. Im not one of these fans. Did we have a freakin meeting that i missed ?! the fact that some people still talk loud doesn't mean anything or makes them more. yes we have accepted that some people are really butthurt that the 90s are gone.

tell me again how the music has gotten worse