| Wonktonodi said:
A few things, considering how rape is often looked at in the bible, I find it's standards for sexual morality a bit lacking. Unless the new testament also changed much of that. |
Rape is never condoned in the bible in any way... And there's a passage in the bible where a man ejaculates beside a woman after having sex with her, and just that displeased God. (I don't have the passage on hand)
God is pretty strict about sexual immorality. Here are the old testament laws on sexual immorality and what God considers a perversion:
http://gnosticteachings.org/scriptures/jewish/23-sexual-laws-of-moses.html
The one we know doesn't apply anymore is the one about being ceremonially unclean, as none of the ceremonial rules apply anymore in the NT.
And this is besides what God commanded that Man leave his father and mother and be united with his wife, in both Genesis and from the mouth of Christ. Rape outside of marriage is clearly out of the picture. Rape within marriage? Use your common sense.
| If strangled animals and blood were still a problem why didn't' Christ sat it at the time? |
Jesus addressed issues as they came to him, and this never was an issue until the early church.
| Does the new testament say anywhere not to eat people? Obviously it would be wrong to murder them first. The old dietary laws had it covered by having what meat you can eat cover. But what happens when those laws are all tossed and Christ even is saying to "eat" and "drink" him? |
To eat Christ is a divine act. Men are not to eat men, but Jesus is God. To eat him so to speak is to consume what is called the bread of life. In other words Jesus wants to be in you and in every fiber of you, and of all who share the bread and the wine. it is also a symbol of his divine sacrifice.
Since Christ is God and man, this is not an act of cannibalism. Especially when Jesus had his disciples eat bread and wine calling them his body and his blood, rather than giving them his actual flesh.
Regarding cannibalism of common men outside of the ceremony initiated by Christ, yes biblically speaking I understand it to be against the will of God. For instance, cannibalism is mentioned as a cause for disobedience, along with famine, pestilence and desolation.
| I would ask what marriage laws changed from the old to the new testament, but I doubt they all did. Same with the laws on divorce and abortion, |
There are no marriage laws really other than not to commit adultery. The others are about sexual relations not so much marriage. As such the institution of marriage never changed in the bible from Moses to the New. The only thing is that Jesus re-confirmed Genesis as superceding Moses on the topic of divorce, but Jesus never called divorce a sin per se, he mostly likened it to adultery, though that's a simplified explanation of what he actually said, which addresses a more specific type of divorce.
| but all of that would just be to make the point that "Christians" today who are so vocal on some of those issues aren't actually pushing for what was actually written. They can denounce homosexuality while not pushing for other law from the bible they would rather not. It's about demonizing another community instead of bringing up their own. |
Can you give an example?
| That's why to me those "Christians" are making an immoral lifestyle choice by following "Christianity" While I believe there are free to do that. I won't just sit idle by when they try to claim some moral high ground as they immorally persecute those who don't follow them. |
And it would be your prerogative. And you have the right to think so. Are you right or wrong, am I right or wrong? That's why we're talking. I can assure you that my views have radically changed in the past two years thanks to debates like these.
| I won't just let them make their beliefs the laws of the land and I will not feel bad because some says those who are persecuting and being hateful are suffering the consequences of their actions. |
@bold. How are they persecuting? Can you be more precise? For example, there are many ways for a believer to put his christianity into practice. In this thread I've already mentioned 3 different ways but I'll outline them again and you judge which is persecution:
1) Grassroots Christianity: To believe in the doctrine and live it in your life and around those you love. To teach by example. (The one I suggested)
2) Political Christianity: To believe in the doctrine and cast a political voice according to it, so for instance opposing same-sex marriage agendas and pushing for one-man-one-woman marriage in the land. (The Chick-Fil-A way to go)
3) Hostile Christianity: Telling people of the LGBT community that they are sinners and that they are going to hell (which is the wrong thing to do) and is very incorrect to say and is far from being accurately worded.
