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happydolphin on 26 July 2012
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bouzane said:
happydolphin said:
bouzane said:

I bash sexism, racism and homophobia. I have every right in the world to bash and belittle backward beliefs.

And where has anyone demonstrated homophobia? Where has anyone showcased backward beliefs?

Traditional is different from backwards. One is against progression, the other (the former) may be for progression. Remember, I said I was for family values. In my view, that's progression compared to the mainstream culture of today, as fed by television nowadays.

Also, I can't help but to think you're insinuating that either I or OP has done any of which you're accusing. In such a case, for my case you'd be wrong. For OP, neither you nor I know since neither of us have any of the original comments or facts, so it's bad to jump to conclusions like you're doing, if you're talking about OP.

Again, opposing same-sex marriage denies human beings the same rights as everyone else. "Traditional" marriage doesn't exist anymore and hasn't existed in quite some time so I don't see why it can not be made more inclusive. Would Christ want people to deny same-sex marriage? Is that truly treating others as you would have them treat you? God forbid we have everybody receiving the same benefits, the same right to adopt, etc...

I am not sure where I stand on this issue. I believe that if a minister does not want to marry two people of the same sex it should really be left up to him and should NOT be seen as a violation of human rights, but a respect for the religious rights of the minister.

For people to encourage one-man-one-woman marriage in the same level of support as the same-sex marriage supporters is entirely within their right. It is their belief of what is right, and they are free to support it.

Does that mean they are to seek to amend a law to forbid people same-sex folk from getting married, it's a very tough question and  I don't think I'm the right person to answer this question but I'll try.

From what I understand from law and morality, is that law is the ship and morality is the rudder. Since christianity fundamentally teaches that homosexuality is amoral, the question is how is an individual to translate that into their political voice? As I meantioned earlier, in grassroots christianity the apostle Paul never seeked to have the idol worship abolished. That's because even though idolatry is considered amoral, scripturally, the apostle Paul wasn't politically inclined or involved. As christians should we follow Paul's example? I personally believe so. In other places scripture mentions that we are to lead by example and not by rule. So ultimately christians are mostly meant to live a grassroots lifestyle and affect change through influence imho.

As such, in the most christian scenario, the true offenders would be those pushing anti-christian values since christians would not fight back and would in essence have their rights oppressed, theoretically speaking. But those who actively oppose same-sex marriage are giving the anti-christian lobby a justification for existence imho. The real issue in this thread is not them, not chick-fil-A, nor I. The issue in this thread is you not seeing how the anti-christian lobby is behaving just as badly as those who oppose same-sex marriage, yet you support them.

That's what I despise of this democracy, and it's why I very much dislike your point of view. You're unfair to the religious community and as such, are behaving in favoritism, despite claiming anti-sexism, anti-racism and overall neutrality. Don't worry, I had the same problem with Sapphi Snake.