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richardhutnik said:
Dark_Lord_2008 said:
The US just like debt riddled Europe: Greece, Spain, Italy and Portugal have a big culture of tax evasion. The rich use any means possible to evade paying taxes and take advantage of tax loopholes. Libertarians/conservatives always go on about taxation being theft and the government has a gun held to their heads.

It is interesting that theft gets framed in the context of a gun held to the head, when apparently some individuals believe everything (like emergency rooms) are run by magic and don't need to be paid for.  They can go off and use such services, or count on them being there, and if they can pay, feel paying is theft.  So using services and not paying for them is theft, but getting the money to pay for them is theft.

I'm pretty sure that most libertarians very explicitly believe that one should pay for what they consume. Of course, we're always told that expecting people to pay for the health care that they consume is wrong and heartless and evil. "It's a right!" and all that garbage.

Requiring people to pay for the services they use is certainly not theft; forcing other people to pay for the services that you use is.