BasilZero said:
Michael-5 said:
No.... I strongly diagree. Out of my DS and PSP game libraries I have 19 RPG's on my DS (13 not remakes of older RPG's) and I have 10 RPG's on my PSP (only 5 are new, and not remakes). DS is the RPG machine.
I hope Valve makes a system, steam is really awesome, MS and Sony just don't make deals on digital content as frequently.
P.S. Lost Odyssey.... to me it's at the same level, if not better, then Valkyria Chronicles and XenoBlade. It has a much better, and satisfying ending I'll tell you.
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No, you just havent played/owned majority of either system's RPGs.
Regardless of whether or not they are remakes, Simple Ports, enhanced ports or reboots which both systems had a equal amount imo, both systems had great RPGs, but I still have/had a better experience with the RPGs on the PSP though.
I've played/own/owned all the below games and I can honestly say the PSP has better quality RPGs, but I do admit the NDS does have some unique exclusive RPGs that fare better than some PSP games such as Etrian Odyssey and the Pokemon games. Despite that the PSP has better enhanced ports and remakes than the NDS. FFIV Complete Collection is far superior than FFIV DS and not because it contains After Years (which really doesnt make much difference) but of the original game FFIV.
So even if you think a system has more remakes/ports, doesnt make it obsolete especially if the enhancements are amazingly done such as the Star Ocean series on the PSP or a full reboot like for Lufia Curse of the Sinistrals for the NDS.
Although I will admit, the NDS has more RPGs than the PSP, but the PSP has far better RPGs in terms of quality imo (along with that more new IPs as well) - Although I may of missed a few titles on both sides, these are the ones I've played.
PSP (52 - 19 Remakes)
Aedis Eclipse Generation of Chaos
Astonishia Story
Astonishia Story 2
Blade Dancer Lineage of Light
Brave Story New Traveler
Breath of Fire III
Class of Heroes
Crimson Gem Saga
Dragoneer's Aria
Disgaea Afternoon of Darkness
Disgaea 2 Dark Hero Days
Final Fantasy I Anniversary
Final Fantasy II Anniversary
Final Fantasy IV Complete Collection
Final Fantasy VII Crisis Core
Final Fantasy Tactics War of the Lions
Final Fantasy Type-0
Grand Knights History
Growlanser
Gurumin
Jeanne d'Arc
Kingdom Hearts Birth By Sleep
Kingdom of Paradise
Legend of Heroes I A Tear of Vermillion
Legend of Heroes II Prophecy of the Moonlight Witch
Legend of Heroes III Song of the Ocean
Legend of Heroes Trails in the Sky
Lunar Silver Star Harmony
Persona Portable
Persona 2 Innocent Sin
Persona 3 Portable
Phantasy Star Portable
Phantasy Star Portable 2
PoPoLoCrois
Riviera Promised Land
Star Ocean First Departure
Star Ocean Second Evolution
Spectral Souls
Tactics Ogre Let Us Cling Together
Tales of Eternia
Tales of the World Radiant Mythology
Tales of Phantasia Full Voice Edition
The Legend of Heros: Trails in the Sky
Valhalla Knights
Valhalla Knights 2
Valkyrie Profile Lenneth
Valkyria Chronicles II
Yggdra Union
Ys I & II Chronicles
Ys Seven
Ys The Oath in Felghana
Ys The Ark of Napishtism
NDS (63 excluding multiple versions - 15 Remakes)
Blue Dragon Plus
Blue Dragon Awakened Shadow
Children of Mana
Chrono Trigger
Digimon Story
Disgaea DS
Dragon Ball Z: Attack of the Saiyans
Dragon Quest IV Chapters of the Chosen
Dragon Quest V Hand of the Heavenly Bride
Dragon Quest VI
Dragon Quest IX
Etrian Odyssey
Etrian Odyssey II
Etrian Odyssey III
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles Ring of Fates
Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles Echoes of Time
Final Fantasy III DS
Final Fantasy IV DS
Final Fantasy The 4 Heroes of Light
Final Fantasy Tactics A2
Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon
Fire Emblem: Mystery of the Emblem
Front Mission
Golden Sun Dark Dawn
Infinite Space (Great JRPG)
Kingdom Hearts 358/2 Days
Kingdom Hearts Re:Coded
Lufia Curse of the Sinistrals
Luminous Arc
Luminous Arc 2
Luminous Arc 3
Lunar Knights
Lunar: Dragon Song
Magical Starsign
Mario and Luigi Partners in Time
Mario and Luigi Bowser's Inside Story
Megaman StarForce (too many)
Ni No Kuni
My World My Way
Phantasy Star Zero
Pokemon: Conquest
Pokemon White and Black
Pokemon White 2 and Black 2
Pokemon Diamond, Pearl and Platinum
Pokemon HeartGold and Soul Silver
Pokemon Ranger (too many)
Radiant Historia
Rhapsody A Musical Adventure
Rune Factory
Shin Megami Tensei Devil Survivor (and part 2)
Shin Megami Tensei Strange Journey
Soma Bringer
Sonic Chronicles Dark Brotherhood (l0l)
Suikoden Tierkreis
Summon Night
Summon Night 2
Tales of Hearts
Tales of Innocence
Tales of the Tempest
Xenosaga I & II
Ys I & II Books
Valkyrie Profile
The World Ends With You
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Cool list, I'll have to look over it to make sure I got everything I'm interested in. Still there are more RPG's on DS then PSP, and you missed a handful on the DS, some of the better RPG's. (You can get a full english patch for Soma Bringer online, and the game is cheap to ship from Japan).
Also I've played or at least looked into the majority of the games on this list, so no....I wouldn't use that "you aren't big on portable RPG's" as an arguement.
Realistically....I wouldn't use half the games on either consoles list to argue which system had btter RPG's. Of the 50 odd games per console, I would argue that a good third of them are not worth playing, and probably another 3rd won't be your or my type of game. This is kind of why I ended up with 40 odd RPG's combined for both handhelds.
I agree with you tht remakes should be counted, but they should be referenced seperatly, and I do agree a lot of the remakes on the PSP are better in quality (FFIV is a good example), but it's not always clear cut like that. I mean FFIV was also released on the GBA, and the quality is almost the same as the PSP version, minus the screen size. Yes you get after years on PSP, but that was originally a Wii-ware expansion was it not? You don't need a PSP for the full FFIV experience.
It's not also always the case that PSP remakes are better then DS ones. Both Fire Emblem games on DS are comple remakes with upgraded graphics on NES/SNES games and the same goes for Pokemon Gold/Silver. Not only that, but the newer game mechanics of the franchise have been incorporated into these games (e.g. New Pokemon on HeartGold/SoulSilver), which make them feel a lot fresher. Just like Star Ocean on PSP, these games offer a very different experience then prior games.
Also....I'm dragging on, but some games only have the complete package on DS. FFIV can be played on other systems in the same was as it's playable on PSP, however wat about Front Mission? It's not one of Square enix's best selling franchises, but I'll tell you t's my favorite franchise from them, and Front Mission DS is the only version of Front Mission which offers both USC an OCU sides of the games main story (Well the Japan only PS1 version also does this, but we don' get that version). Also games like Front Mission and Final Fantasy III were never localized outside of Japan before, although they are remakes, they are basically brand new experiences for this not fluent in Japan and importing.
Either way it's a matter of opinion of which system is the RPG system, it's close though, and on a straight number comparision DS has more. Still if we're arguing what ideal system combination gives the complete experience, I think i's fair to say that you should get both a PSP and a DS. PSP for Valkyria Chronicles, Jeanne d'Arc, and some great remakes, DS for Pokemon, Fire Emblem, and for the other great remakes.
No point squabbling, you and I have both systems, just opposite impressions. Any recomendations? I've been hearing a lot about Etrain Odyssey, is it a franchise worth getting into? I only have time to beat about 4-6 JRPG's on the handheld a year and I have about a dozen I still need to work on before I get a 3DS. Just go Breath of Fire 3 for PSP last week, what luck finding it at the local store.
If you haven't had as good of an experience on DS as you had on PSP, I would strongly suggest playing all the bolded games that you missed. I'm really surprised you missed some of those big DS games considering Fire Emblem and Front Mission play a lot like Final Fantasy Tactics (but are better).
