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Runa216 said:

and yet it sucked.  Yes it was less ambitious, I don't see how you could possibly see XIII as ambitious.  They held back the scale of the game by making it linear and doing little in the way of philosophical what-ifs, they simplified the combat system so they could make it flashier at the cost of player control, and yet it still didn't work.  they clearly pumped all their resources into making it look and sound good, becuase the story was horribly told, the characters underdeveloped, and the battle system was horribly flawed.

That's the opposite of ambition.



What you are saying it totally subjective (I'm sorry but it's the same old broken record about linearity etc) and thusly has nothing to do with interpreting ambition.

They invested everything in the story, that was a gamble for sure but also highly ambitious. After the open FF XII, Square aimed at something completely story driven and character centric. Linearity and freedom are issues of course but have never been major  (I said major) elements for FF games, ever since VII they have been trying to tell the perfect story. This game is an extremely large scale ride, full of original locations with unmatched design and aesthetics that are some of the most refined in the series. The battle system is not flawed, it was rarely taken advantage of for the sake of making the game easy (aiming at western audiences) battles like that with Tonberry or the long Gui were an excellent combination of action, rpg and strategy as it was originally intended and showed the real potential of the battle system.

Toriyama said he wanted the game to be "the ultimate single player RPG". That is ambition and I repsect that.

 

Ckoal said:
SO they waisted their time... when they could have been developing KH3


I have a general comment to make on that.

In reality we know shit about FF Versus. It was only until last september they said they moved to full scale production. That was only months ago.

We ASSUME & SPECULATE they have spended  lots of cash / time / resources on Versus over the years.