Concept of Going to Heaven...

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kaneada said:

Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
Its only a bribe if the "creator" intended their laws in their religion to be a bribe.

So God created Adam, the first human, he gave him the first law. Do you think that the "Law" he has given is bribery? IE: Do not eat a fruit from the Forbidden tree?

If this Law is indeed a bribery..

What has God got to gain when he bribes Adam that he just created and that he just gave the ability of freewill?

Control over his creations. Rules, at their most basic, are nothing more than set controls. That's not to say that some rules aren't valid and perhaps universal truths; but all rules have a manipulative component to them. The real question here, is why give the gift of freewill? The idea and principle behind freewill is that it creates an autonomous individual that of which makes its own decisions independently. To impose rules against that freewill, with the steep penalties for not following those rules; to include the loaded decision to relinquish that freewill to the rules set by another person or deity makes it a manipulation due to the fact that both the action of giving freewill and subsequently the rules that directly oppose the principle of freewill a contradiction.

So one of the following could be assumed:

A)    A)  God is not all knowing.

B) God is manipulative.

So your saying why give free will if your just going to put some restrictions? Correct?

Well if God gave us total free will then there will be total Chaos. 

If God created us and didn't give us the ability of free will, there will be total and utter Order, essentailly we would be walking vegetables which would be illogical because we cannot be "judged fairly" between Heaven and Hell. 

You think as though giving us free will means 100% no restrictions, well what if I tell you Free will can co-exist with Laws and restrictions? We are still able to break those laws correct? E.g. 10 commandments?