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happydolphin said:
Porcupine_I said:

but that's the point! they need to look at all scentific data and not pick out a event that might support their cause in some arbitrary way.

I won't argue this because I need to follow my own OP here. We could continue this on my wall if you like.

killed instantly by the biblical flood? how is that supposed to work? it's not like turtles are afraid of water or would drown instantly even while mating.

That's the fascinating part of the find, is that they were alive (mating) when they were fossilized, and the fossil actually preserved their position when the fossilisation happened. This leads to two ideas:

1) The fossilization was quick.

2) The fossilization didn't require them to slowly die as is the usual case.

 i know they are slow animals but that slow that raising waters through a long rain would drown them while mating? that doesn't make sense to me. even if it was explained with a instant floodwave, would they have stuck together like this while being washed away? and all of them washed to the same spot?

That's the thing. The flood is more than just water. It is volcanic and seismic activity (the bible talks about the earth burst open like floodgates), and it's high-pressure + all kinds of mud and earth mixed together. In some areas of the globe, that would involve areas being quickly buried through catastrophic physics (like those seen in volcano eruptions: high pressure, steam, volcanic deposits).

So, it's water accumulating in some cases, in others its almost like covering creatures in cement.

anyway, for example: 25 years ago, 1700 people and 3500 livestsock, and maybe even some turtles instantly suffocated at lake nyos when a sudden CO² cloud was realesed. knowing that such things can happen even today tells me that they have not even considered to look at other solutions for the dead mating turteles, but just jumped to their own ridiculous conclusion.

No, it's just the beginning. Also the scientific article I provided seemed to assert that the posioned lake was the factual account when the creation article or the natgeo article (can't remember which) mentioned issues with the poisoned lake hypothesis. I'm just saying that in all ends of the issue that attitude exists, try not to see it so one-ended.

You already gave yourself the answer to this "mystery" i marked it for you. Why shoehorn the biblical flood into it when volcanic eruption it is a natural ocurrance that happened at any time in earths history until today.



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