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Kasz216 on 02 July 2012
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Kantor said:
Kasz216 said:
badgenome said:
Kasz216 said:

 

Bush was really a lot more "liberal" then people realize.

Bush and Obama are really a lot more indistinguishible from one another than most people in either party are willing to admit.


Preaching to the choir on that one.

I mean, outside of stem cell research I can't think of a Bush position Obama has willingly moved off of.

That would be the funny thing about Romney, if he gets elected, functionally he might end up more leftwing the Obama!  Depending on how he handles national security.

A funny comparison.

http://www.propublica.org/special/obama-vs-bush-on-national-security-timeline

And by funny i of course mean disapointing and horrifying.

Don't Ask Don't Tell. One of Obama's few achievements, and not something Bush would really have done.


Except Don't Ask Don't tell wasn't his achivement, and would of happened if Bush was presidents this term.

Little backstory...

A lawsuit was started about Don't ask Don't tell by a particular gay rights advocacy group.

A california federal judge ruled Don't ask Don't tell was illegal and ordered the US Military to rehire all the gay people it discharged for being gay.

The Justice department under Obama filed an injunction preventing the action and appealed and fought long enough for congress to repeal Don't as Don't tell... which at this point was already functionally repealed by the courts.

Why did he go to this trouble?

He didn't want the gay rights advocacy group to get credit for being the ones who got rid of Don't ask don't tell... because they were this gay rights advocacy group.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Log_Cabin_Republicans

Left on his own, DA/DT wouldn't of been repealed.  If he left it alone or fought it, or Bush did, it would of been repealed anyway.

 

He only acted, because he didn't want the biggest civil rights legisilation in 20 years to have been caused by a bunch of republicans, becaiuse it reinforcecs the main truth that minorities can NOT rely on the democratic party to look out for their intrests, because it's too good of a politican issue.

Things like don't Ask Don't Tell, and gay marriage won't be won by the legislature.  It will be won by the courts.

Even if the government will later scramble to get out ahead of the results.