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Dgc1808 said:
Zim said:
Dgc1808 said:

Up to FY 2007 when it is purely game division = 285,573 million yen - FY 1994 & PS1 R&D. 
Up to FY 2011 when it joins CP&S = 33,764 million yen - FY 1994 & PS1 R&D

I think interesting thing is you can clearly see the effect of PS3 R&D costs towards the end of the PS2 lifetime. Also I should mention I haven't ever seen anyone claim that the PS3 wiped out all profits ever. Only ever the claim that it wiped out all PS2 era profits. 

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=4655172

Thanks for the numbers. Pretty interesting. Also, I still don't think it's fair to say that it's all do to the PS3. It's been profit for the division most recently before this. That's with other consumer electronics bringing  things down and R$D for new systems. PS3 did take a big bite of the pie though. No doubt about that.


I found Game division only Fy 2008 and so have updated my post accordingly. I will keep looking for 09 and 10 for a bit. 

The whole PS3 wiped out PS2 era profits is a difficult statement to verify. PS3 R&D costs are lost in the late year PS2 profits. Then PSP R&D, PSP losses or profits , Vita R&D, PS4 R&D etc all get muddled up in there. As a general statement though it does at least have some merit. The losses in FY 06-09 are utterly vast and in those periods it is likely the PS3 was the major cause of the losses. Then whatever the earlier R&D costs for PS3 were are lost in the PS2 profits are. Of course we don't know how much the PS3 is now profiting as those figures get lost in PS4 R&D, Vita R&D etc etc. 

In general I think even though it's a murky statement, that saying the PS3 wiped out all PS2 era profits is a reasonably fair thing to state. Those big losses in the early years and the R&D costs are simply too big. I remember that the Cell alone cost Sony and their partners (IBM etc) $400million to develop. 

EDIT: For the life of me I can't find the Game division for 09 and 10. None of the investor relations information on Sony's site contains it. The only real notable thing is that during FY2010 it is noted that the game division and PS3 greatly helped it achieve a positive operating income.



Turkish says and I'm allowed to quote that: Uncharted 3 and God Of War 3 look better than Unreal Engine 4 games will or the tech demo does. Also the Naughty Dog PS3 ENGINE PLAYS better than the UE4 ENGINE.