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phenom08 said:
@happydolphin I guess agree with you more than initially thought. You don't seem like one of those people that believe Nintendo has now set there sights on the hardcore and are leaving there casual base behind. In summary what Im trying to say is your right they are looking to appeal to both, by relying on the 3rd parties to bring the hardcore and Nintendo will attract the expanded audience. Realistically though they will fail in that regard. A 360 or Ps3 owner has no reason at all to purchase a WiiU which is why I believe they are targeting Nintendo fans and gathering third party support to keep them away from Microsoft or Sony. You have to admit Nintendo doesn't have a chance in hell at stealing gamers from the HD twins. Maybe a few early adopters that just wanted a newer platform but that's probably it.

I totally agree with bold, and that's why I created this thread "HD Twin fans: What would make you buy a Nintendo console".

I think S.T.A.G.E. also agrees with me that Nintendo mostly does/would rely on 3rd parties or 2nd parties to get the core audience served with more content geared towards older gamers, since it isn't really in Nintendo's fiber, or maybe I should say desire to make games for older gamers in mind. I mean, they made Endless Ocean, and they made Trace Memory, but I haven't played either games, so I'm only guessing they are capable of it, but it isn't their focus internally imho. They did to TP, which was pretty dark to be totally honest, but these are exceptions rather than the norm. The norm at Ninty internally is to make games for the younger crowd (like NintendoLand, Animal Crossing and NSMB), and I think you also think so.

I also see little hope in Nintendo attracting the older core gamer demographic, as posted here. But in the end, part of me only wants to hope that Nintendo can remember its roots as a company that marketted to the older crowd ("Now you're playing with power"), that made compelling games for skilled gamers (NES 1st party A games), and that is still today able to pull it off when they want to (Trace Memory, Pandora's Tower, Twilight Princess). Also, Rare was in the past a boon for Nintendo in this mission (Perfect Dark, GoldenEye, Conker's BFD) and today Retro is the spiritual successor. Also, in the past Nintendo had friends like Factor5 (Rogue Squadron) and Capcom (Resident Evil 4 exclusive). There is hope, but E3 just really didn't inspire. When I hold on to those ideas, I think it's possible, but then when I see Reggie, Katsuya Eguchi, Takashi Tezuka, Eiji Aonuma and Iwata, I just feel like all my hopes get crushed. Thankfully, Miyamoto said that he and some others at Nintendo are seeking to tap into Nintendo's past, and Iwata gave a sound investors briefing last April, so some things still make me hope. Also WiiU and all the other AAA core games is a sign of Nintendo going uphill in the battle still, so I still have hope. And the project Sora partnership with Namco is a sign of things going in the right direction. But when I saw NintendoLand, as good as that game may be, I nearly lost all hope, literally. As you can see here, I had a meltdown.