Allow me to Defend every Criminal out there

[Slimebeast]

IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

Slimebeast said:

IIIIITheOneIIII, as much as you have thought and meditated on these things, I thought you would be familiar with the potential confusions associated.

My point was obviously that human's have no free will (according to the logic you presented in the OP among other threads).

Nearly all philosophical discussions on the topic of free will also touch the topic of determination, so it's not that strange that I happened to (mistakenly) use the determinism approach instead of the free-will angle. But in this particular case it doesn't change anything (because morals cease to exist from lack of free will as well as from determinism). My point still stands.

In that case I really don't understand your point's association with the OP, which applies to both universes. I don't assume that the world is determined when I discuss this topic.

Then just forget that I used the term "pre-determined" if that makes it easier for you. Just swap it to "lack of free will", because that was my point.

The point is that you took a narrow but popular field (the ethics of crime) where your conclusion has far wider implications (that morals don't exist).