What happens if ObamaCare is overturned?

[Kasz216]

spaceguy said:

Kasz216 said:

spaceguy said:
So really single pay is the best option.

Eh, would you really trust this government with single payer?

They'd be promising back and forth to raise rates to win the Doctor Vote.

Not to mention, the US is the last "Late great" profit zone for people developing new medicines and new machines.

Despite the fact that the EU is a bigger economy (Or was, not sure now...) They only spend a fraction of what our government spends on healthcare research... let alone our markets in general... which spend way more then our government.  To compare a few nations.

http://www.psoriasis-cure-now.org/medical-research-funding-level-by-country-world-psoriasis-day-challenge/

for something longer...

http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=us%20vs%20eu%20biomedical%20research%20spending&source=web&cd=3&ved=0CF4QFjAC&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.acmedsci.ac.uk%2Fdownload.php%3Ffile%3D%2Fimages%2Fevent%2F1121788418.pdf&ei=LbfnT4aLDurC2wXXjuXaCQ&usg=AFQjCNFtWe_Fb6KcgBa1sn7nlUov7e4Dww&cad=rja

That's not even counting the fact that our private sector speds 2-3 times that.

If someone can come up with a way to replace 100 billion dollars worth of biomedical spending a year and NOT Make it one of the first cuts like in basically every other country... cool.

Right now though, it feel more like wondering how much farther along medical technology would be if everyone had a healthcare system like the US... and how much better off most people would be.

It's just way too each to cut medical funding and kill two birds with one stone.

Do you really trust health care for profit? I trust government more then I do corporations. I know government has become a dirty word but really why is that? Well A lot on the right starting blaming gov. For everything. Then they got elected, screw it all up and then say. See the government doens't work. Yea you just F'ed it all up and worrying about profits is the worst way to explain away the corruption going on.

Depends on your definition of "trust".

Companies aren't manaiacl super villians, I trust companies to do what they can for what's best for there profits.

So companies are extremley predictable.  Companies will only do something sketchy in one of two cases.

1) Most people won't know.

2) Most people won't care enough to change their buisness.

Trasnparity is supposed to be governments job.  So if people don't know about what's going on.. it's likely due to goverment corruption.

Meanwhile.  Government through elections usually has a 90% rentention rate.

In bad times that retention rates drops to a horrifyingly low....  80%.

Likewise, government has no clear motivation.  It's the goals of a dozens of people who mainly seem to want to just have "real power" and be decision makers.

With proper transparity.  Companies can be reasonably expected to take care of their consumers.

With proper transparity. Politicians will still do whatever the hell they want because they have ridiciliously high retention rates.

Look at Strom Thurmond, dude was so old, he was a Dixiecrat and he was a presidential candidate for the segregationist party!

Or Look at Dodd-Frank.  It's a banking bill... written by two people who have been heavily investigated because they got "sweetheart" loans from banks.

Meanwhile an executive says something racist or is caught having taken a bribe to move something in favor of a client/other company?  They're gone before it stops being a news story on CNN.

 

So to make a long answer short.   I don't trust either at all, but at least a corporation, you know there motivation... and that corporations will relativly be held to doing honest things with proper transparity... and where there isn't proper transpairty it's do to government either getting bribes, corruption or sticking there heads up their own asses.

Giving those same people MORE control over the issue can only lead to "More bribes, more corruption or the same level of sticking there heads up their own asses, but at a bigger cost to people."