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Cobretti2 said:

 

FIRSTLY thanks guys for turning this in 40 new posts of console wars.

 

Juma009 said:
Reggie is right, Ninty fans are extremely hard to please, I for one understand them for their lack of new IPs, All of us "demand: at least a Platformer Mario, a 2D Mario, Zelda, Metroid, Fire Emblem, Donkey Kong, Paper Mario, Mario Kart, Smash Bros, Pokemon, Starfox, Kirby, Animal Crossings, Punch out,in every console they release, and when they give us that, we start asking about Luigi's Mansion, Golden Sun, heck, I even read some comments asking for a 1080 snowboarding sequel, so how can there be any time for new Franchises or need? if you have about 20 healthy, solid franchises, isnt wise to keep making them?

Juma, the problem is theat all these people cry about games they know will be coming anyway. They wasting their efforts. Like this years E3 everyone in the live chat on the side o fthe video, where is ZELDA. ZEDLA blah blah blah ZELDA. Like common guys they showed us zelda last E3.

What Nintendo really failed on again is showing 3rd party support. From what we knwo atm it would appear there isn't much. This is what Nintendo fans should care about, especially if they cannot afford more than one console. The other problem is a lot of fans (NOT  ALL) are pissed of with 3rd party for their shit efforts on Wii so they bluntly refuse to support them completely even when a decent game arrvies from one or two of them. By blanket blocking every 3rd party all it does is hurt the games of that platform as it does not give any reason for 3rd party to come back if a decent effort game sells poorly.

Thing is, I for one do not expect Nintendo to have the massive third party support we are all  wishing for, I will give you my reasons,

1) Nintendo seems to have found their way back into top of the marketshare by aiming to their loyalist and the casual audience, why would they drift away from that? if Third parties join the party, Great! if not, Nintendo has survived 3 consoles without them. so this attitude can be blamed on Nintendo.

2) Third parties are always skeptical about Nintendo consoles, in my opinion they have doubts about investing big  on Nintendo since its those Nintendo's first party game that just get massive sells so I guess Nintendo is their biggest competitor on a Nintendo console.  for example, I remember reading somewhere where Warren Spector (might be wrong on the spelling) said that if Epic Mickey would have not been released around the same time as Donkey Kong Country Returns its sales would have doubled. My answer to this is put a better product out.

3)Finally, the fans are a big part of the problem, seriously, games such as Mad World, Zack and Wiki, Okami, Monter Hunter Tri , Red Steel saga, Muramasa, A boy and his Blob, FF Crystal Bearers, Sakura Wars, So Long my love, No More Heroes,  ect, deserved much better sales, to me all these games are over 8/10 rate. so us fans failed at this too. thee games deserved purchases at full retail price, not pre-owned at Gamestop.