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Jay520 said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

I never said that it makes no sense to practice religion for the sake of joy, but don't fool yourself: Every Christian, Jew and Muslim fear hell and are willing to do anything to avoid it. Praying may be one of those things, circumcising their children may be another, but they all have the same goal.

It brings joy because they feel safe from the Devil.



Your logic doesn't make sense. You're saying: Religious people fear Hell. They'll do anything to avoid it. Religious people practice religion, thus, religious practice is one of the things they do to avoid Hell. That doesn't make sense. You're simply stating that religious practice is used to as a tool to avoid Hell, but you provide no logical connection between the two.

Regardless of if you can prove that religious practice is generally used to avoid Hell, which you can't, that still wouldn't be the absolute rule. Fact is: There are people that practice religion because they enjoy it. You've already said that what these people are doing isn't nonsensible. So you're saying that religious practice in and of itself isn't nonsensible. It's the people that believe that religious practice is necessary to enter heaven who are nonsensible.

My logic does make sense. People fear hell and believe that they can avoid it by a sufficient amount of religious practicing. By removing religious practicing, you will also remove that unjustified fear.

That's right, I have already said that. Again, if you are questioning the thread title, I still think that it's justified. It doesn't provide all the info (because then it would be too long), but it does indeed inform every potential reader about the topic.

And, also again, most people do practice religion to please God, which they think will give them better odds on the judgement day. Not because it's a fun thing to do.