JazzB1987 said:
EdHieron said:
JazzB1987 said:
EdHieron said:
MrT-Tar said:
EdHieron said:
"We don't need no stinking western 3rd party games, we've got the best 1st party games out there!"
It might be the Nintedo fans belief, but there's no evidence to support it.
Sony's made 14 games with a 9 or better aggregate review score on Metacritic this gen, Microsoft's made 11, and Nintendo's made 7. |
It's all subjective, but if your using metacritic, surely I could just counter by using the IMO superior gamerankings (Uncharted 2 and LBP are the only 7th gen Sony 1st or 2nd party game on the first page of their all time best, compared to more from Nintendo) or perhaps Famitsu (PS3, PSP and PSV have had no 1st party perfect scores, but Wii, DS and 3DS have 3, 2 and 1 respectively).
But anyway, it's all subjective.
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If you use Gamerankings, that's still 13 PS3 games made by ony with aggregate review scores of 9.0 or higher versus 8 made by Nintendo for Wii.
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Since when does exluding the systems one wants to exclude make for a fair comparison? Count DS 3ds and Wii and then you can have a good comparison but dont forget PSP and PSV. The best comparison would be COMPARE all Games ever made by nintendo. Because this basically makes them the best developer.
Btw 50% of the games are just published by Sony and dont forget that Sony did not own most of the companies before they made good games. They usually buy the devs after they make good games.
Nintendo on the other hand always co-develops or supervises the development of their games when they are done at third party studios (ibut most are done at seconrd party studions that ALREADY belong to Nintendo. They bought them way before the games come out they like monolith and Xenoblade.
If the USA lose against canada in ice hockey but the USA have won 1000 times before and canada just once. still doesnt make Canada the overall better team.
BTW COD gets better reviews than alot of really good SONY MS or NIntendo games so now you know how much you can trust REVIEWS.
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Well, we're talking about consoles and not portables here and obviously if Nintendo hadn't been so concerned with catering to the casuals with Wii, then they would have made more than 8 decent games this gen, rather than 8 decent games and the rest of their console output being crap aimed at the blue ocean market. And, Ninteno's made it pretty clear at their recent E3 that they're still interested to a large extent in making crap to attract the blue ocean market. Gaming should be about more than making five or six games for the casuals and five or six Mario games and no new core titles since the Super Nintendo days and pretending that's balanced.
Sony doesn't waste their time on crap. They just try to make excellent games for the core.
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You are one of the many many people that doesnt understand what hardcore games REALLY are.
Example COD or Uncharted = Mainstream. Media hyped average games. That rely on OMG effects rather than smart gameplay. They are to easy and are made for well lets say less smart people.
They are full of scripted events and quick time events and whatnot. They are basically interactive movies. You move a few steps something blows up you move another few steps another scripted explosion (just look at the crappy train crash scene at the beginning of uncharted 2? Whats the purpose? Other than showing of how good it looks? Then there was a long empty wagon and i thought it looks like the floor will break and what happened it did. Totally predictable)
Mario is a hardcore game it requires thought, skill and time to beat.
Graphics have nothing to do with hardcore or not.
Cods multiplayer is not hardcore because the challenge comes from other players. Therefore Wii sports Tennis in competitive gamemode is also either hardcore as CODs MP is or both are not Hardcore you decide. The only difference between CODs mp and Wii Tennis is that Wii Sports Tennis doesnt require a LOOK MY D*CK IS BIGGER THAN YOURS leveling system and ranking system. And shovelware exists but its not always casual if it has competitive and smart gameplay its not less hardcore than COD or uncharted are supposed to be.
Either every game that offers competitive gameplay is hardcore or no game is.
Angry birds is exactly like all the hardcore games were back in the days. You fail alot. You have to think. The only difference is it came out this decade and is therfore labeled CASUAL. The correct term here would be its a accessible hardcore title. whereas uncharted is a nonaccessible interactive mainstream movie.
You are talking about the media controlled words like hardcore and casual. I am talking about REAL hardcore games. Which most of todays HARDCORE wannabe crap is far away from being a part of.
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Nah, I'm talking about hardcore themed games that don't make the players feel like they need to be 8 years old to enjoy them and that if you're a parent you shouldn't want your 8 year olds to be playing them. The casual themed games are the type that Nintendo puts out. You now, the safe for all ages stuff that they hype incessantly.
As far as hardcore gameplay games go those are games like GeoWars. The 3DS' upcoming Mario game where you have to collect 1 million stars without dying will probably be pretty hardcore gameplay wise, but it's still a safe for all ages casual experience.
