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the_dengle on 17 June 2012
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Mazty said:


How else can you explain the demise of Zynga or the boom & bust sales of Kinect?
All the evidence points towards a very volitile market that clearly doesn't care about graphics etc. What evidence have you provided??

IAll the evidence shows casual gamers are very temperamental. Show me some evidence that suggests otherwise. 

All I have shown you is evidence to the contrary, but you won't see it. Zynga is going under because it's going under. It happens to all sorts of companies all the time. It's currently in the process of happening to Sega, Konami, and THQ. It certainly doesn't indicate a general apathy towards games from your so-called "casual" market.

We've been over this. PS2 sold so well because it played DVDs. It had "casual" support. DS sold so well thanks to Nintendogs, Brain Age, New Super, etc. It had "casual" support. I don't think I have to explain the Wii?

The "casual" games you detest so much were the best-selling games of this generation. If you removed them from the equation, this gen would have been a bust. Every gen would have been a bust -- as I said, it's thanks to people casually interested in games that the NES took off like it did.

But you want more evidence? Alright. Casual gamers don't care to upgrade, eh? Over 90% of the gamers who bought Wii Fit upgraded to Wii Fit Plus two years later. Almost 30 million people have bought into Wii Sports Resort despite already owning the original Wii Sports. Just Dance 2 for Wii saw a 36% growth in sales from the first game in the franchise, released one year earlier. Just Dance 3 is well on its way to passing the sales of its predecessor -- and by the way, so far in 2012, Just Dance 3 on Wii is the best-selling game on a single platform released the previous year. How bout those legs?

Ooh, let's look at one of your favorite examples of a casual game -- Mario Kart 7. Over 5.5 million have already upgraded to a 3DS and bought this game, and you can bet that number will explode again this holiday season.

And one of my favorite "casual" games, Journey, is the best-selling PSN game of all time according to Sony.

You also now say "casual" gamers "don't care about graphics." Well that's good, somebody has to not care about graphics. But shame on them for having fun playing games they like instead of paying twice as much money to play games they don't enjoy that look ten times better.

Honestly, you just sound like you're still bitter about the success of the Wii. Hope that works out for you.