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badgenome & happydolphin, can both of you start your own thread sometime about nintendo & the core audience, so you can both write your manifestos. This forum is about Nintendo specifically holding back information about certain key launch titles for the Wii U. It's not about your treatise & deep beliefs about Nintendo & the "core" gamer. Please address the specific topic at hand; if there are ket titles like Black Ops2 or Madden for the wii U launch, then why is Nintendo withholding information?