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superchunk on 11 June 2012
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DarthVolod said:


Maybe I overreacted on the friend code thing since what Reggie said was rather vague ... it will be "easier" but we don't know if it will be as easy as PSN/Xbox. He did say that friend codes would return in some form though which has me concerned since the only next logical step with friend codes was to get rid of them entirely.

"Microsoft may require every game to have Achievements, but, Fils-Aime said, "That is not our philosophy."

This can be translated as "Wii U will not have a unified achievement system, and Wii U games will only have achievements on them if the developers feel like adding them ... even if they do add them there is no PSN card or gamertag that they will be gathered on (it is not clear how achievements will be presented on Mii Verse if they are represented there at all). Thus, the Wii U will not have achievements/trophies at least in a way that is comprable to Sony and Microsoft.

This is what I meant when I said there were no achievements on the Wii U. Modern achievements are universal across all games for a platform (or at least they became mandatory for PSN after a certain point), and they are organized into an easy to understand profile that shows the player their cumulative progress with examples being a gamerscore or a level.


Reggie also said that if you find a user online and want to be friends, you can do that in the system. That means while you will have identifiable information to yourself, i.e. your miiverse/nintendo account (i.e. like a friend code), you won't have to trade some long boring number per game. Of course we have to wait for the network to be detailed, but looking at all the available information it only makes sense that you'll have some sort of normalized account that is similar to every other network out there. The differentiation will be in how you can use the network to socialize.

Personally, I could care less about achievements. I don't even try for them now. However, if a dev makes achievements for the other companies they ported their game to, there will be something in Wii U as well. It may not be like the others though and may instead be more of a miiverse bragging type of thing and that's fine with me. (i.e., no you may not be able to make some sort of internet card out of it to brag with, it may be only in miiverse profile/posts etc.)