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DarthVolod said:


So no achievements and the return of friend codes. If this is true then me and many others will be saving a lot of money this holiday by passing on this "next gen" system that can't even get basic last gen features right.

Why bring friend codes back at all? They served no purpose aside from making it much harder to connect to friends. Achievments are also a big part of games now with their own communities built around them, and it seems Nintendo doesn't care about that at all. 3DS achievments and game specific achievements are lame because there is no tracking of all the progress one has made in terms of game playing ... this kills the meta game feel of achievements.

These two things alone are enough to make me not buy a Wii U. I really have no idea how they could screw this up so bad.

That's not what he said.

He said an achievement system is built into the WiiU aroudn the miiverse but 3rd parties could create anything they wanted and since 3rd parties have identical achievements for PS360, I'd guess they have the same thing on WiiU.

He said you could connect to people with out trading numbers/info in real world. That it would be really simple. That all points to a normalized system where you simply ask to be friends and the person approves. No different than PS360 now.

Man, you guys get to worked up on the littlest things without actually thinking about what's being said.