Wisconsin Recall 2012--Aka The Giant Money sink-- Walker up 9%

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Mr Khan said:

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killerzX said:

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Mr Khan said:
Union-busting thug. Time was the people did something about class traitors.

You've been extra crumudginly lately.

Toxic combination of Nintendo-hate brought up from E3 and this election just rubs me the wrong way. Scott Walker does, really, though obviously i don't care that much because i wasn't even aware the election was yesterday. Something about him makes me angrier than most right-wingers. Chris Christie, too. Real hatred in there for that guy.

what has scott waler done to possibly make you angry?

erased a 3.6 billion deficit, lowered unemployment/stay flat at 1.5 points below national average. saved thousands of public sector jobs, that would have been fired becuase state cant afford them. let people have choice on whether or not they want to join the union. actually make workers pay a little bit to to medical insurance and retirement funds. it was something like 2% and %5, now they have to pay something like 5% and 9%, which is still way below the national average for public sector unions, and monsterously below the average for the private sector. he also enacted voter ID law, which would have prevented 110% of the voting population of Madison, Wisconsin from voting. in other words voter fraud, like what clearly happened there. Most likely came from people being bussed in from busses with Michigan lisence plates, which several people reported having seen. and who do you think those voters were voting for, thats right the dems.

voter ID laws are a quasi-racist boondoggle. Voter fraud is not an issue.

Except there's been TONS of claims of voter fraud in the last few elections...

and how the hell is it racist?  No offense but that's about the dumbest arguments i've seen people make politically in years... and when you consider the state of politics... you know that's bad.  (Yes I know it's been made on tv before.)

I mean, i find it ridiculious voter ID laws aren't standard.

You need an ID to do ANY other serious action in this country.

Hell you need Id to get a fucking library card.

From the statistics i've seen, the voter fraud has been minimal compared to those disenfranchised by ID laws. It likely toys with the 15th and 24th amendments, because we all know who the types of people are to least likely have IDs, and the Republicans know that people know that when they pass these idiotic laws. It's just like Corbett and his stupid food-stamp verification law, it's a boondoggle to spite the poor because it creates more work for the state than it saves the state in eliminated food-stamp fraud.

The people least likely to have IDs are those who aren't supposed to vote.

There is no excuse for someone to NOT have an ID... and if this law actually convinces people to get IDs, all the better.

It's achiveing two good ends.  More people getting IDs and less voter fraud.

You can't go one election without someone claiming voter fraud so clamping down on it as much as possible seems like a good thing.  Heck, look at the current wisconsin one.  All kinds of claims of voter fraud.

I think the real problem is that voter fraud via ballot stuffing has always been a halmark of the Democratic party.  Which is the REAL reason Republicans are pushing it.  Not any stupid claims of racism... when the number of people without IDs who vote is minimal and should be zero.

I mean, you need a photo ID to get paid in this country.  Because you can't Cash a check without one and can't get a bank account with one.

To say this violates the 15th and 24th ammendents are again.... really stupid.  Espiecally the 15th ammendment.  The people most likely to not have ID's are old peopel on social security who never felt a need to rennew them and already have bank accounts.

That's about it, for legitamite reasons people don't have them, and that could be solved pretty damn easy... and these people don't tend to vote Democrat.

The whole racism cry is pure BS made up ignoring the fact that you basically need an Photo ID or to have had one at some point to get any sort of money at all in this country.

The studies you likely read that claim racism pretty much base it soley on drivers liscenses.  Ignoring that there are other forms of identification, and you NEED one of these forms of identification to do pretty much anything... even when it comes to Welfare.  You don't need a Photo ID in most states, but you do need something that requires a photo ID in the first place to get.

Even most Democrats (who aren't politcians) are for voter ID laws.

Poll from Ten as an example.

http://data3.tennessean.com/projects/vanderbilt-politics-polls/?qid=865#qid865