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TheSource said:
Gilgamesh said:

I just finished watching Nintendo's E3 and I have to say Nintendo really dropped the ball.  There launching there new console this holiday and they didn't bring anything very different that we already knew. The graphics look to be on par with the PS3/X360 and it's more then likely going to be at a higehr price. They needed to announced some specs/price and actual release date now to get people excited which they didn't.

Now all hope is not lost, there still is TGS, but usually E3 is reserved for there biggest games.  Only time can tell, there is less then six month to release and the Wii U is looking identical to the Wii. Nice little innovate controller, ports of existing game franchises, and a ton of Mario games. It's a shame nothing has really change for them this gen, but I kind of understand since the Wii did sell a lot, I'm just skeptical there going to be able to pull it off after people seeing all third party support went to Microsft and Sony.

So just a recap, Nintendo basically is coming out with a Wii2, which they shouldn't of because of how the Wii ended it's gen, so many people moved over to X360 or PS3 and left the Wii's gather dust, they should of came up with an entirely new concept. Something to attract third party. Now Nintendo Land...just looks like a bad version of Home, they didn't even upgrade the Mii characters, they looked awful.

But anything can happen, no one thought the Wii was going to sell anything and look what it did, only time will tell, I'm just dissapointed.

Did you really expect graphics substantially better than PS3 / X360? We're past the point of diminished returns now. Graphics != profit, and that's the bottom line for each of the big three now, especially since the consoles depend on services now as much as games. Wii didn't really weaken too much at the end, it's just a device that had three phases - hot shit / motion monopoly (Nov 2006 - Sept 2010), motion-plurality (Sept 2010 - Dec 2011), and now legacy console (2012 to whenever).

The thing is, look at the launch window / holiday line up (likely Nov 2012 - March 2013):

Sequels to 10m - 40m level hits:

Just Dance 4

New Super Mario Bros. Wii U:

Wii Fit U

Sequels to 5m - 10m level hits (including multiplats):

Assassin's Creed 3 Wii U

Likely COD / Likely BF?

Major Ports /  Minor Sequels / Breakout Titles -   500k - 5m

Mass Effect 3

Batman

Pikmin 3

Sing

Wii U Panorama

Nintendoland

Zombi U

Rayman Legends

Dragon Quest X

Tekken

Tank Tank

Project 100

Your Shape

Avenger's Game

I just don't think Nintendo realizes who there selling this console to. Will people be able to adapt to the new controller as easilly as the old one? no. Will those games sell? obviously, but to Wii's level? hard to say, from the get go I don't see any records being set by the WiiU. Also can Nintendo keep up this support, that's the question.

Even you must realize the Wii did not end well, unlike most first place consoles when they begin to sell well they continue until the end of the generation. Well the Wii's generation lasted about 3 or 4 years while the X360 and PS3 kept pushing on stealing away those Wii sales and convincing most consumers that there product is better. This generation Microsoft definitely proved themselves that they can run with the big boys and they could be quite the force to deal with next generation. Sony's state is not good and they can't afford to come out with expensive consoles that put out big losses, what if they come out with a $299 PS3 with much better specs/features then the WiiU? it's possible the PS4 is only going to come out maybe 2013/2014.

Again a lot of people could be thinking hmm the Wii had great games by Nintendo but the big quality budget games like, CoD, GTA, red dead redemption, Battlefield, elders scrolls (obviously I can go on), were all on PS3 and X360. Is Mass effect and assassins creed enough to convince the old Wii owners that Nintendo is going to be getting these huge blockbuster games on there console on each release? not really, not yet.

Another thing to is online gaming, we didn't see much about it, no cross game chat or anything enticing about multiplayer, that's not good and if Nintendo doesn't show off some info about that soon that could scare away a lot of consumers, if it's there will it be as great as an experience as the Xbox Live or PSN? who knows.