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hollabackenny said:
amp316 said:
Sorry, but when I think greatest ever forwards usually come to mind and I guess this is unfair, but I'll just list some defensemen that I think were just as good if not better: Orr, Coffey, Bourque, Leetch, Potvin, and by all account Eddie Shore was the best of the early era.  Also, as a defense only player (not counting offense) Rod Langway was as good as anyone that I've ever seen.  

While I admit the Lidstrom is deserving of being a first ballot hall of famer, I compare him to someone like Derek Jeter.  He's a great player that was treated even greater because of the team that he was on.  I will say this, he was better than Chelios.  Now that guy was REALLY overrated.  I would know since I live in Chicago.  The Hawks had a defenseman named Doug Wilson that was better than him.


Well, I say one of the greatest because he easily fits most peoples top 20 D-man if not top 10 list of all time. I know he's not the best,  but he's been consistant through out 20 years and could easily play another season or 2. Chelios may have been overrated but the guy really did love playing hockey, not many people play around the age of 50 (except Howe of course). 

Also, Off-topic but I read on NHL.com the other day that Hasek wants to return to the NHL. 

You're right about that.  He's in everyone's top 20 and definitely was consistent.  Chelios hung on too long.  At the end, he was a shell of his former self.

I really like Hasek, but at his age I would think that his reaction time has slowed.  Mine has and I'm not as old as him.  :p 



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