| Diomedes1976 said: I am not saying Ioi is putting fake numbers purposedly ,of course .But his sources dont seem unbiased . Each time is harder and harder to deny the evidence this site has something against the PS3 .When it was only that ioi was Wiigamer and the Wii numbers were too high by say half a million it was bad enough.The same when some moderators,administrators and posters entered daily the Sony doomed and Sony is screwed posts with the same joy as the Wii will win ones .But right now things are done in a very subtle way and always in the same direction . I mean ,examples : Japan numbers are always somewhat inflated here from the Media Create ones .Apparently it was due to vgchartz adding the numbers from other minor asian regions .Well ,for the last weeks the numbers for all the other consoles are somewhat inflated ...except for PS3 wich sales are reported to be lower than the sales given by Media Create . The NA number for PS3 ,while we had monthly data ,was made exactly by adding the Canada and the US number from NPD .OK with that .The issue comes when the numbers for both the X360 and Wii were those two numbers plus a good 15-20K plus .Why the difference ?If they were adding another country more (say Mexico ) then the PS3 should have as well some extra sales isnt it ? More ,wednesdey when they posted their estimations for the weekly NA sales the Wii was augmented in the frontpanel by about the same number ,the X360 was augmented by the same number ...and the PS3 was at 3.21 and despite vgchartz reporting some 20K sales it remained at 3.21 until the japanese data came when they put it to 3.22 .Either the link to add the PS3 sales dont work or something strange happens here . And now the european data .My god ,for the few official data we have from Gfk we know some german and UK data .We have also some software numbers for Spain ,UK ,Italy ......Well ,the usual data is PS3 16-17K weekly for UK and monthly for germany..against some 9-10K for the X360 in its "best markets " .This european sales data doesnt have any sense for anyone living here ,for what we know right now the PS3 is selling significantly better than the X360 and not very far from the Wii .For gods sake ,people are changing their X360 and games for the PS3 to purchase it at 350 euros ,all the online sales sites show the PS3 ahead ,the only official data we have shows the PS3 beating it by about 35-40% and yet here they come with some data that would mean the PS3 has sold 87K in two months in the whole PAL territory .This seems nearly like a mockery ,especially since we have seen weekly sales of 17K in Uk alone.From the launch in Rusia and Arab Emirates ,not a single word ,not a single unit added when the launchs occurred .The same with New Zealand ,one of the few countries were the Sony consoles are beating the Nintendo ones even in the handheld field . More on european sales ,I told ioi some months ago that Sony had recently announced in november last year 1 million PSP sold in Spain some 650K of wich correspond to 2006.That has even been confirmed by Nintendo by the way of providing their number and giving their market share ...PSP had more than 1 million here back november for some 1.5 million DS .Well ,it doesnt matter ,vgchartz numbers show the number of PSP sold in Spain in 2006 at 350K since then . Another example ,I have told several times that the Wii isnt sold out in my country since at least debut march ,other are reporting the same about scandinavian countries etc .Yet Ioi insists each time he writes something about Wii sales that "shipped equal sold everywhere " .He just doesnt want to hear otherwise ,thats what leads me to think he or his sources at least arent as impartial as they would like . You may prefer to ignore all this and keep saying good work and fantastic and using these numbers as facts but this site is deviating more and more from what I liked .That was ,official data ,we add it .And a great database that has dissappeared in the NA .All this discussing in the forums ,putting estimations we dont know where they come from.... |
I am going to try to hit this point by point as I see it.
I have made comments about how I don't believe Sony can win this generation. Its based on my knowledge of the history of console sales and how to my knowledge no console has ever come back from sales this low. I think it could still sell well but I really don't think first place is even possible for it. I am also very pessimistic about its chances in Japan. Again based on my knowledge of console sales and the Japanese culture.
Media Create is not the only source of console sales figures for Japan and they are normally all close but do provide slightly different figures. In the future I would recommend showing how they are different by giving examples. It gives a lot more weight to your argument when you can show just how far off they are. Since its a lot more important to work off of lifetime sales then trying to compare single weeks I got the media create figures up to May 13th. The Wii was at 2.42 million, 360 at 360k, and PS3 at 883k. VGChartz shows the consoles with the Wii at 2.45 million, 360 at 386k, and the PS3 at 916k. They are all a couple of percent high here and the 360 is the farthest off, followed by the PS3 and the Wii is actually very close. I don't really see a problem here.
I don't have the data for North America or Europe in front of me so I am not going to try to say anything except like I said above post some hard figures and I am positive people will listen. But I see a lot of posts about how Amazon.(insert your country domain here) shows this console is selling better then another but in reality that is just one store and cannot show how the market as a whole is doing. Also just because you believe something is selling well or not because your local stores have/do not have stock and what your told by your local store employees does not really mean much in the overall market. If I believed the people who work at Best Buy then they have not received a single Wii in 3 months.
