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kanageddaamen said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

I think you need to understand where we draw the line. We do have the freedom of speech over here, which means that everyone is able to express their opinions without the fear of someone looking down on them. However, one may not use that freedom to take away the freedom from others. Expressing hatred towards minorities is a way of limiting their freedom; the freedom of not being looked down upon. How can you be free if people around you are able to call you names and treat you like crap in a way that is actually not prohibited by laws? You say that it's a person's own responsibility to make their lives what they want, but what if they want to avoid verbal mistreatment, but are unable to?

That is where the government, represented by the people, is supposed to step in.

 

Feel free to reject my 'true feeling of intolerance'.

People do not have a right not to be looked down upon by their neighbor.  They have a right to equal treatment under the law, but not equal treatment by citizens around them.  Saying that is trying to control the thoughts and actions of others, which does not work well.

Let me pose a hypothetical.  Say the majority of your population is struck by patriotic ferver, and coerces the government to ban any speech that goes against the government.  The justification being that saying something violate's a person's right to not hear bad things about their government.  Extrapolate that to ANY issue that may grip the masses and you can see how dangereous opening that door is.

Now, I do not expect people in other countries to understand the cultural complexities that are present in the US, like no other.  There are still unresolved cultureal undercurrents from the civil war and beyond that go beyond race and religion, and will never be resolved by legislation, particularly that which attempts to tell people how to act.  That won't work here so it is wrong for the United States.  It may be right for other countries.

We in this country are willing to be offended, looked down upon, insulted, and belittled to make sure our right to say what we please is maintained.  That is the tradeoff.  If that is not the trade off people want to make, then they should not live in the United States, as individual liberties will always come before an individual's self esteem.

To say that those priorities are universally wrong, and should be reversed, is just an imposition of your own opinion.

Bolded: Exactly, and that is the main problem with the US: Their laws. They allow people to express hatred towards minorities (I'm still confused by this, is it actually that way? I thought that the UN forbid any kind of discrimination based on sexuality, religion, sex and that sort of things.)