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denniswaterman said:
S.T.A.G.E. said:

lol...then by your logic Mass Effect one was first party (which is just coo coo).

Then Microsoft must be coo-coo since they introduced it as a first party game when it was announced at X05. That would explain why it never showed up on any other console wouldn't it.

S.T.A.G.E. said:

Do you know how many third party games have been published by Microsoft?

Yes. ZERO! If Microsoft publishes an Xbox 360 game -whether its internally developed or not -  it's part of their first party lineup. After all, if Microsoft isn't the first party to Xbox consoles, please tell us who exactly is? Valve?

S.T.A.G.E. said:

Naughty Dog was a second party developer for Sony, which means they held third party status (notice I said status) but developed exclusively for Sony by choice (and contractually) working on Sony IP's.

Nope, they were third party while Sony published their games as part of SCE's first party lineup. They stopped being third party when Sony purchased them, there's no interim. Second party is a pointless term because it still acknowledges (according to the very bad "definition" you provided, that the developer is still  third party and even if it didn't, Naughty Dog could not have been second party if they wanted to, they had already made games for other platforms and publishers.

 

Microsoft lied to you if they told you it was first party. For that game to be first party Epic has to be owned by Microsoft whilst Microsoft owning the IP. It's as simple as that. It's as simple as that. Theres no way around it, you can break up what I am writing all you want but the answer is really that simple. I don't want people being misinformed. Stop this bro.

This is a Michael Pachter talking about how Epic believes they made a big mistake signing a three game exclusivity contract when they could've gone multiplatform with Gears. If Epic wanted they could make Gears multiplatform next gen. Their contract allows Microsoft exclusivity of their IP for three games and then its over. They could go multiplatform with prequels for all they care even though at this point I don't think they should.

http://www.industrygamers.com/news/pachter-third-party-console-exclusives-will-disappear/