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S.T.A.G.E. on 14 May 2012
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KylieDog said:
Mr Puggsly said:
KylieDog said:
Cannot understand people who defend XBL fees.

I subscribe to Lovefilm, a movie streaming service. I can access this free on my PC, or free on PS3. If I want to do the same on my 360 I need XBL Gold.

Why? Where the hell is the cost on Microsofts part? I pay lovefilm for the subscription, Lovefilm stream it from their servers to me. The 360 is just a connection device between my router and TV. So why exactly do I need pay MS for the privilege of using my paid for subscription on my own internet line which I pay for and get data from Lovefilms servers.

Lovefilm is not even close to being the only example like this.

XBL Gold paying for MP servers is a complete farce also, most games are P2P hosting, that is a player using their own internet connection, no XBL servers. Some games like many of EAs use dedicated servers, again nothing to do with XBL.

Activision gets a cut of XBL fee, well I don't play any Activision games...I take it I pay less because of this? What, no? I'm paying for other people to play and not myself? Amazing.

Why do you have to pay to use a service free elsewhere but not on the 360? Here's a better question, why do you have to use that service on the 360? Its no secret MS charges to access online services. If you don't like that than go use some other piece of hardware and stop the bitching.

All XBL games are actually using servers. Even games that don't have dedicated servers still need to access servers for match making. Safe bet the Live infrastructure is a lot more complex than you imagine.

 

"Activision gets a cut of XBL fee, well I don't play any Activision games...I take it I pay less because of this? What, no? I'm paying for other people to play and not myself? Amazing." DEJA VU! I Just responded to a ridiculous argument like this. I'll give you the same response.

 

If you pay for cable, do you only pay for channels you want? No, you pay for the whole package. Don't like that? You can cancel.

If you pay for PSN Plus, do you get to pick the free content and discounts you want? No. Don't like that? You can cancel.

If you pay for Netflix do you just pay fees for programs you enjoy? No, you pay for access to everything available. Don't like that? You can cancel.

If you pay taxes do you pay only for the services you use? Nope, but we have to pay anyway.


WRONG, wrong, wrong again.

Matchmaking servers on games - Nothing to do with XBL.  This is all on the devs, XBL fee does not go towards this.

Cable/sattellite etc - Several different tiers of packages where you only pay for what you want, do not like sports?  Do not pay for spots channels etc.
PSN Plus - This is an example of a different tier, PSN is free for to access all services which I already pay for, PSN+ does not grant me access to things it does not provide.
Lovefilm (UK version netflix) - This offers individual steaming options where you only pay for exactly what you want if you so chose.
Taxes...you do not pay taxes for things you have no involvement with at all.  If you mean 'services' like fire department...they are on standby covering you 24/7 even if you never need them you are always using them.

So no, none of this compares to paying Activision money as part of XBL when I have nothing to do with Activision.  Or paying to use my own services once again.

Nearly all the major differences between XBL SIlver and Gold boils down to Gold just lets you use things you already paying for.  There is very little it actually adds.  If anything MS should offer a small one off fee to ugrade to access and nothing more.


Stop trying, he just doesn't get it.