IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
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Underlined: That's exactly what I am doing. Weight has nothing to do with size, it's about a magnetic force (which in this case is unlimitedly strong). God is not lifting the rock if He removes this force.
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Weight Force relies on Mass and Gravity.
GRAVITY must be present in order for a mass to exert Weight force.
LIFTING means moving an object from ONE SPACE TO ANOTHER. In order to move a rock from one space to another you need suffecient space. Then the qustion should be. "Can God move a rock from one location in space to another that is larger than possible?" In order for the rock to not be able to move from one space to another, it would have to be larger than space itself. However, it is impossible for a rock to be larger than space, as space will always adjust itself to cover the space of the rock. If the supposed rock was out of space-time dimension, then the question would not make sense, because it would be impossible to move an object from one location in space to another if there is no space to begin with, meaning the faulting is with the logic of the question and not God's capabilities.
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Limitless Mass results in limitless magnetic force (gravity. Which results, in our dimention, black holes. Black Holes which is proven to move through out space. How can it move? we dont know but ,as we know, a black hole is present in the centre of the milkyway galaxy. A galaxy which moves throughout space.
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You've got the entire definition of 'lifting' wrong. If I roll a ball from one place to another, I still haven't lifted it. If I pick up an object in space and move it from one place to another, I never lifted it. Lifting is when you force something in the opposite direction of gravity, and your argument is based on otherwise.
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Lift translation: Raise to a higher position or level. Higher level to the proposed ground or horizon. This still translates to a movement in space OPPOSITE to the proposed level of the floor. No gravity is requred for this type of movement.
Lifting force however is diferent.
The ball you have rolled had external forces interferring with it. Chemical potential energy and Gravitational potential energy-Kinetic energy.
Your proposed "Rock" should then be perfectly stationary in order for you to "Lift it". However, the this state of movement (perfectly stationary) can not be achieved in a three dimentional world. Atoms "vibrate" in our dimention and the only way to make them stationary is to achieve absolute zero. (-232 degrees celceus). Which is not possible in our dimention. As a perfect vacuum cannot be achieved. Thus the rock lifts it self from the vibrations of the very atoms that makes itself up, no matter how small the distnce it made the rock "lift" from the ground.
Then you may ask. God can you make a "rock" that has absolut zero energy storage and lift it?
This is like asking God to make a square circle. As no possible matter contains zero energy can exist in the three dimentional world. You may ask God to Lift a rock in the fourth dimentional world. Lift which exists only in a three dimentional world and not any higher. Which then makes the whole thing illogical.
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If you still want to press on with your "Lift force" then here it is.
Draw the ground and draw a rock and label therock Mass = Limitless
On a second frame, draw the rock raised on a higher level while labelling it Mass = Limitless.
Easily done, by a higher dimentional being.
(I have to go to sleep)
