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IIIIITHE1IIIII said:
Wh1pL4shL1ve_007 said:
IIIIITHE1IIIII said:

Well, you seem to assume that present is not directly affected by the past, and that the future is not determined. Therefore God has (as you said) no idea of what will be your next meal, or when your next cough will take place.

Evidently, that means that he is not omniscient, as the Bible propose. Despite having full control of the time flow, and despite having full knowledge of all chemical reactions on atomic level that may possibly occur, he cannot picture the world one second from now on.


Simply think about it like this. 

God knows EVERY path that we take with our free willed descision. Were in one path, then bounced off/or chosen to bounce of/or we CHOSE our selves to bounce off. 

The past has a direct contact to our present. 

As I have said, the linings that the photon is traveling in to  is a corridor of consequence which we have chosen/accidentally/intereferred/divinely intereferred to be bounced to that specific path. 

Future is determined because God ALREADY knows EVERY POSSIBLE PATH that we take. A possibly limitless tangle of webs has possibly limitless paths then this results on possibly limitless descisions.

 Thus, this means that God knows our fate (possibly because it is predetermined or he has limitless knowledge) despite us having free will. 


But if you agree that God can flawlessly predict which paths (out of the infinite possibilities) we will take throughout our lives, then that means that some are born to go to hell. God knows that person X will make some choices, resulting in him going to hell, yet He won't interfere.

Is it really fair then? A life started by God goes straight to hell because of the way God has created it.

First of all. I dont think humans have limitless possibilities just becuase Humans dont live forever in a three dimentional world and there will be a time where humans will cease to exist. However this tangle of web is infinitley complicated. but one can argue that God can interefere so it could be limitless? 

Anyway, back to the point lol. 

MAKE some choises. So this person X has given the ablity of free will. His mind ,which is capable of seperating right and wrong, has made descisions to go to hell. God has given US the chance whether we should do this or not. Potentially we control our fate as we go. Each turn will result in a change of fate (going to heaven) (Going to hell). 

It was OUR free willed choice to do whatever we want to do. It was Person X's free willed choice that has set him the path to hell. This "photon" was never born in to this yet he chose his own path at the end (including the potentially limitless variables).

Take this in to account.

We cannot be born in to going in to hell. Neither born in to going in to heaven itself. But as the intial circumstances your mother has bought you in to the world. has set a limited but potentially limitless amount of "end paths".

Person X brought in to the world by his/her mother. Initial circumstances: Born in to a christian home.

More Chance to going to heaven than hell

Heaven 79%

Hell 21%

Person Y brought in to the world by his/her mother. Initial circumstances: Born in to a non-christian home.

Heaven 20% 

Hell 80%

(The initial circumstances was the consequence of the free willed descision made by our ancestors)

_______

 

See what I mean? Each has a chance (However they may not be as equal). And its up to you what ever you want to do. Your not born in to going in to hell or heaven. hats why free will exists at the first place.  



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