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Jay520 said:
Burning Typhoon said:

However, just because things are pre-determined, doesn't mean it's without purpose.  It just means that, on another *level* you've already decided how you want your life to be, and the idea was to live life forgetting you had the power to have such a great effect on it in the first place.  So, the more you believe you've got free will, in a sense, the better..  That's the whole point.

 



We've already decided how we want our lives to be? So our decisions are already made before we make them? That's deep, but still proves we have no free will. At least not in the present. We may have had it in the past when we've decided our lives.

But, there is no Past...

If you take a peice of paper 2D sheet of paper (well, technically not 2D as it's got some depht), and, roll it's sides together so it's a cylinder, you've taken this 2D paper, and, made it 3D.  Now, if you imagine you're flat, and on this paper, if you were to walk forward, eventually, you'd get back to your starting point without ever turning around.

We are, in a sense, like the 2D creatures on the paper folded in the dimension above..  Any 2D creature wouldn't be able to imagine the 3D dimension.  We're 3D, but, we have 2D vision, and an element of the 4th, time to give us perception of the world we live in..  Without that 4D element, we wouldn't be able to take several 2D images, and get a percepttion of 3D.

We only have 2D vision, because we can't see all points of a 3D object at once, but, we can see all points of a 2D object at once.  A 2D creature (if it were possible for them to exist) would only have 1D viewing... In which, they would, in a sense only be able to see straight lines... So, eventhough it's a flat paper, they cannot imagine a cylinder, it's beyond their scope, but, does it mean they don't exist?...  I'm seriously shutting up now....