TSA stops 4 year old terrorist

[lestatdark]

Mnementh said:

theprof00 said:

lestatdark said:

theprof00 said:
I don't understand what the big deal is.
We all have to do it. Welcome to the 21st century where kids have been sent to kill soldiers strapped with bombs.

Didn't know that America was as equal as Afghanistan or Iraq. Never head a case in which a kid was done that on US soil, nor in any other country outside those, but hey, fuck common sense right?

The point is, you never know. If we start letting people know that we don't pat down kids or oldies, we may see a bomb.

I'd prefer news like this hits and terrorists know it's not going to work.

You never know. No system ever will prevent terrorism, crimes and other bad things from happen. Even in the socialist/communist countries (i was born in the GDR) existed crimes, the spying didn't prevent this.

But bullshit like the TSA-stuff is destroying the freedom of the people. The terrorists have already won in the US. They disliked the lifestyle of freedom, so they made a terrorist attack - and now the US-government is taking the freedom from the people.

So, you can NEVER prevent terrorism and many acts of controlling people are destroying freedom, so you have to make a weighting - in the case of the TSA the loss of freedom is much bigger than the win of security (if there is any).

And people claiming it is better here in Europe - we may not have TSA, but we have for instance telecommunications data retention. That's the same: nearly no impact on security, but much on the freedom.

As others pointed out: Israel handles the security in airports without something like TSA. And they have a much bigger terrorist threat.

Things like wiretaps and phone conversation retentions have been around for decades and not just in europe, plus in most european countries it's illegal to go to court with them if they're not sanctioned by an official judge or instance. Also, there has been a lot of public outcry and backlash for the use of these data retentions in the past years, especially in the UK with the Murdoch's case. 

I'm not saying that we in Europe don't have security fuck-ups, we have a lot of them, but I don't think we have one that's as extreme as one that patdown 4-year old kids. 

@klumminati - I guarantee you this: If I went to the US with a baby and they forced a patdown on him/her, they'd have to pry it from my cold dead hands. Those kind of thoughts are borderline paranoid and the very essence of what the terrorist want you to behave and think like. If you're paranoid, you're constantly afraid and will want to lose everything just to feel "safe". Guess what, no one in this world is safe. Can you guarantee that when you go out with a couple of friends you won't be mugged, shot at or anything of the sort (goddess forbid it, it's just an example)? Are you going to stay at home constantly afraid of that happening? It's the same principle as what the terrorists want to apply.